EMS to Hospital communications

[Tsmith2262]

I’m in Waukesha county. Do the local fire/EMS services discuss patient info when enroute to hospitals? I recall hearing this years ago but nothing recently. Or is it now transmitted (e.g. vitals) as data, digitally? I’m currently listening to the Oasis system.

 

[tvengr]

Have you checked these talkgroups on OASIS?

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Waukesha County Hospital
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DEC	HEX	Mode	Alpha Tag	Description	Tag
58901	e615	D	WKMDAMCS	Aurora Medical Center Summit	Hospital
58903	e617	D	WKMDEMH	Ascension SE Wisconsin Hospital - Elmbrook Campus	Hospital
58944	e640	D	WKMDMRHC	Froedtert Moorland Reserve Health Center	Hospital
58945	e641	D	WKMDFMFH	Froedtert Menomonee Falls Hospital	Hospital
58947	e643	D	WKMDFPCH	Froedtert Pewaukee Community Hospital	Hospital
58902	e616	D	WKMDDNG	ProHealth Care D N Greenwald Center - Mukwonago	Hospital
58908	e61c	D	WKMDOMH	ProHealth Care Oconomowoc Memorial Hospital	Hospital
58927	e62f	D	WKMDWMH	ProHealth Care Waukesha Memorial Hospital	Hospital

There are also of ton of Hospital/EMS Patient Report talkgroups on WISCOM.

 

[Tsmith2262]

Yes thanks, I have both of those groups programmed and I'm still not hearing anything.

 

[414RadioTech]

Most agencies in Waukesha County use cell phones to communicate patient vitals and information to hospitals, Tess Corners will pop up on Milwaukee County EMS Call TG2025 if transporting to a Milwaukee county hospital and sometimes Milwaukee County EMS Com will patch to Froedtert Menomonee Falls and occasionally hear Flight For Life use the hospital talk groups but otherwise they are quiet

 

[19-685]

As 414RadioTech stated, not much activity on the Waukesha County Hospital talkgroups. They are used, but very sparingly.

As for the WISCOM hospital talkgroups, I've never heard a peep on any of them in Milwaukee or Waukesha County.

Never hear anything on the standard 155.2800, 155.3400, and 462/463 Med Channels either.

 

[Tsmith2262]

Most agencies in Waukesha County use cell phones to communicate patient vitals and information to hospitals, Tess Corners will pop up on Milwaukee County EMS Call TG2025 if transporting to a Milwaukee county hospital and sometimes Milwaukee County EMS Com will patch to Froedtert Menomonee Falls and occasionally hear Flight For Life use the hospital talk groups but otherwise they are quiet

Thanks. Yes I see that cell phones are addressed in the Wis Emergency Medical Services Communications Plan https://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/publications/p0/p00342.pdf.

That makes sense given privacy/Hipaa concerns today.

 

[OpSec]

I’m in Waukesha county. Do the local fire/EMS services discuss patient info when enroute to hospitals? I recall hearing this years ago but nothing recently. Or is it now transmitted (e.g. vitals) as data, digitally? I’m currently listening to the Oasis system.

The short answer is no. 99.5% of pre-hospital comms are cell phone direct to the ED staff, which is allowed by the EMS Comms Plan. You will hear a private EMS provider on EMS B rarely.

The UHF MED channels are not used in the county that I'm aware of, but they are used in Milwaukee County by EMS services that don't have access to OASIS.

The WISCOM talkgroups are there, but there never has been a solidified plan on what to use, when to use it or how to use it. You will hear hospital roll calls on some of the HERC talkgroups, but the hospital-specific talkgroups are quiet.

If you have a decent antenna, you will hear surrounding county hospitals and EMS on EMS B giving patient reports.

 

[OpSec]

Thanks. Yes I see that cell phones are addressed in the Wis Emergency Medical Services Communications Plan https://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/publications/p0/p00342.pdf.

That makes sense given privacy/Hipaa concerns today.

There will be a new EMS Comms Plan coming out this year, but not many changes and cell phone usage isn't going anywhere.