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Enable DMR on all G4 / G5 Prior to 4-1-2018

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So has anyone set up a scan list with your DMR channels in it? Is it working as you expect? I'm only getting at best every other transmission in my scan list. Sometimes only 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 come through. I can park the radio on a single frequency/time slot and it hears everything on that slot.

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Updated G5 perfect but the upgrade to G4's is showing G4B67BFSXXXEN1401UNI and the program says it should be G4B67BFSXXXEN1400UNI but can't get it to read the 1400. Everything works fine except the G4 issue.
 

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Updated G5 perfect but the upgrade to G4's is showing G4B67BFSXXXEN1401UNI and the program says it should be G4B67BFSXXXEN1400UNI but can't get it to read the 1400. Everything works fine except the G4 issue.

The 1400UNI vs 1401UNI is not important. What do you mean by "can't get it to read the 1400" ? What steps did you follow? What did you expect to happen? What actually happened?
 

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@ 6paul21- The upgrade to each Pager enables DMR but it doesn't change the PROFILE model number. You have to go into a saved profile and convert that in the PPS tab C off the drop down list to the proper number and save the profile for loading to the Pager. Is that what you did? ??
 
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BTW. For other G5 users changing from 64 to 67 profile after upgrade and making a new profile. I got an error after changing my G5 profile model number from (64) to (67) when you convert to (67) it gives you a new COPY of your profile called *example "Cook-Co_NEW" when trying to load this to pager it throws an error about access and integers or something. I changed the profile NAME back to the original profile * COOK-CO ... shortened it to the original name, saved it and it loaded to the pager with no problems. If anyone gets a similar error, look at the length of the profile name. Seems to like short names.
 

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Jonnydollar2, yes that is what I did. In tab D-1 it does show 1400UNI and in tab E it shows 1400UNI . It only shows 1401UNI from the radio when I go to download program. I think everything is ok.
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For the record, I am receiving the ham repeater successfully. Summary of what I did (or what I remember doing!):

1) On D2, create a Conventional Frequency for the repeater's output (12.5k width)
2) On D3, create two Protocol entries, "Protocol Type" = DMR, the first one with "Repeater Slot" = 1, second with 2.
3) On D4, create a Group named "DMR All" with "DMR TGID" = FFFCDF (hex)
4) On D5, create two knob positions, monitor mode, select "Conventional Frequency", select "Protocol Alias" for slot 1 or slot 2, select "DMR Color Code" for the repeater (you'll need to know what it is - not sure if there's a wildcard for it?) enable "Repeater Mode", enable "DMR All" in "Talk Group List".


Thank you for posting this. It sounds like determining the correct Color Code is the big challenge for determining new systems in which not all information is known. A Color Code "Wildcard" would be handy. I suppose an alternative could be to program in with all possible Color Codes, 0-15, until it is determined. It would be cumbersome, but it might be an option.
 

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Thank you for posting this. It sounds like determining the correct Color Code is the big challenge for determining new systems in which not all information is known. A Color Code "Wildcard" would be handy. I suppose an alternative could be to program in with all possible Color Codes, 0-15, until it is determined. It would be cumbersome, but it might be an option.

Agreed. You should be able to find the CC for a ham repeater online, though - e.g. https://www.repeaterbook.com/repeaters/m/details.php?state_id=06&ID=5515
 

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Anyone else notice the "Stay" soft menu that shows up when scanning DMR knob positions, and there's activity? Maybe there's hope for a trunked system "Stay". I don't recall seeing that before on conventional scanning, but I mostly use mine on trunked P25 systems.
 

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Anyone else notice the "Stay" soft menu that shows up when scanning DMR knob positions, and there's activity? Maybe there's hope for a trunked system "Stay". I don't recall seeing that before on conventional scanning, but I mostly use mine on trunked P25 systems.

Hmm. Yes. I clicked it, and it changed to "Unstay". Then the conversation stopped... and the button changed back to Z/C. So I'm not sure if I'm locked onto something now or not!
 

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Hmm. Yes. I clicked it, and it changed to "Unstay". Then the conversation stopped... and the button changed back to Z/C. So I'm not sure if I'm locked onto something now or not!
Yeah, it's not real obvious at first, but it says "parked" next to whatever channel it's locked on. I just changed the knob position and came back to get it to scan again, instead of waiting for an opportunity to "unstay".
 

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Yeah, it's not real obvious at first, but it says "parked" next to whatever channel it's locked on. I just changed the knob position and came back to get it to scan again, instead of waiting for an opportunity to "unstay".

Ahh, yeah, when you "Stay", the home screen shows the label of the knob position at the bottom, instead of "Scanning....". Interesting! I also don't have much experience scanning conventional, so also not sure if this is new/DMR-specific....
 

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For the record, I am receiving the ham repeater successfully. Summary of what I did (or what I remember doing!):

1) On D2, create a Conventional Frequency for the repeater's output (12.5k width)
2) On D3, create two Protocol entries, "Protocol Type" = DMR, the first one with "Repeater Slot" = 1, second with 2.
3) On D4, create a Group named "DMR All" with "DMR TGID" = FFFCDF (hex)
4) On D5, create two knob positions, monitor mode, select "Conventional Frequency", select "Protocol Alias" for slot 1 or slot 2, select "DMR Color Code" for the repeater (you'll need to know what it is - not sure if there's a wildcard for it?) enable "Repeater Mode", enable "DMR All" in "Talk Group List".


Thank you for this info. We have a lot of 800Mhz DMR systems out here at the resorts / casinos - most are capacity + systems.

One question if you might be able to clarify: In your wildcard groups - do you need color code at all? Or will it grab any active TG regardless of the CC?

Thanks again -
 

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One question if you might be able to clarify: In your wildcard groups - do you need color code at all? Or will it grab any active TG regardless of the CC?

My assumption is that any control data that does not match the specified color-code would be ignored completely. I think of it as an equivalent to a PL tone - to allow selection where multiple systems may be using the same frequency.

This is completely separate from talkgroup IDs - those allow you to select a subset of traffic within a given system. e.g. you might only want to hear traffic for a given department on a private system, or a given agency on a shared public-service system.

We don't know if there is any concept of a color-code wildcard (equivalent of turning off PL).
 

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...do you need color code at all?...

Just to further clarify this, yes, you do need a Color Code. The programming, if I recall correctly, defaults to Color Code 0. So, if you simply ignore Color Code, the default Color Code of zero will populate. If that would happen to be the correct Color Code, you would be good to go. If, however, it is Color Code 1-15, you wouldn't hear anything.
 

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Has anybody determined if it is possible to search between an upper and lower frequency in just the DMR receive mode?
 

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Getting the following error code in FunctionUpdater:

Unhandled UI Exception

Unable to load DLL ‘bit.dll’: Invalid access to memory location. (Exception from HRESULT:0x800703E6)


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Just to further clarify this, yes, you do need a Color Code. The programming, if I recall correctly, defaults to Color Code 0. So, if you simply ignore Color Code, the default Color Code of zero will populate. If that would happen to be the correct Color Code, you would be good to go. If, however, it is Color Code 1-15, you wouldn't hear anything.

Great, thanks. That is exactly what I was looking for.
 

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I'm getting the following error. unable to load dll'bit.dll': invalid access to memory location. (exception from hresult: 0x800703e6) firmware versionv1.10 G5 modelG5b66bf-sxuden1401uni

I'm getting the same error, anyone with a fix? I've reinstalled twice already with no luck.

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