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Encryption pamphlet. (news release from Kenwood, public knowledge)

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Citywide173

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Lies to sell radios. There is no proof that encryption enhances safety. Worker's Comp stats are public record, and to date no department has reported a decrease in claims that can be directly attributed to the decision to encrypt or an overall decrease for that matter.

As far as the "untimely release of critical public safety information before it can obstruct an official response" there is also no data indicating that the move to encryption has any effect on this-and that would also be public record in the form of higher apprehension rates or lower overall crime rates.

These are scare tactics at best and pandering to the lowest common denominator of departments that have things to hide at worst. I'm starting to reposition radio salesmen higher on my sleaze list, even above used car salesmen and even possibly above snake oil salesmen-and I sold radios at one point.
 

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Motorola basic and Kenwood Basic ARE NOT THE SAME. M usies 16 bit basic, Kenwood uses 15 Basic.
So while I've also read that M Basc Privacy uses 16-bit, it does use a 8-bit XOR algorithm. It only offers 255 different keys so much less secure than the 15-bit (ie 32k keys) XOR scheme on a Kenwood. 'Proper' 16-bit would have over 65k keys.
 

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Whats the difference between "FIPS" AES encryption and non-FIPS? There are other radios in the network that use AES (Anytone UV878). Would all of these by compatible with the other radios or do you have to match FIPS and non-FIPS?
 

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Whats the difference between "FIPS" AES encryption and non-FIPS? There are other radios in the network that use AES (Anytone UV878). Would all of these by compatible with the other radios or do you have to match FIPS and non-FIPS?

FIPS is the federal requirement.

Unlikely the CCR companies will try to go for a US Federal standard like that. No one would permit the Chinese to have access to that sort of stuff.
 

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I think (although not positive) that FIPS has to do with how the radio handles the encryption. How the keys are stored, how vulnerable they are, do the keys zeroize if the radio is tampered with, etc.
I believe a FIPS and non-FIPS radio will talk to each other if they have the same key. Although if your agency required FIPS compliance, you wouldn't be sharing your key into a non-FIPS radio.
 
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