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Encryption questions on DMR

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Ilikeradiostuff

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Hello all, I have two questions about encryption on DMR, I understand all the rules regarding not using it on Ham bands. I first am curious about how easy it is to crack 40-bit encryption; I understand I could go for an expensive AES-256 but that is not the best option. How easy is it to crack DMR encryption? I am unaware of any higher security then 40 that is available cheap. In the past they have cracked 40 bit in 22-56 hours, I'm guessing that will be much easier considering what government agencies have now, could any average or advanced Ham listener crack it now? Does anyone have any recommendations on higher security then the HD-1 40 bit? Thank you in advance for informing me more on this.
 

ultrajv

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Despite fake youtube videos, no one bothers as its not a thing. Its claimed to be easy and yet , even radio hacker Travis Goodspeed has admitted its too time consuming. There is software called openear which claims to do this for extortionate money but dosnt. No one will be able to listen to you. The more important question is do you have a licence for the frequencies you are using?
 
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WPXS472

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The question I always have to ask is: Who is it that you don't want knowing what you are talking about? If it is just some others who might be on the same frequency, or you don't want your wife overhearing what you say to your girlfriend, don't worry. Yes, it is possible to break 40 bit encryption. But, it isn't all that easy, and almost no one you will encounter in everyday life has either the will, or ability to do it. If you fear the NSA, well that's another thing, and you should be looking at much more than just what you say on the radio.
 

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Using DMR at many sites across the nation, I now use 900 MHz Motorola DTR series radios when I really do not want to be heard, or hear anyone else. I am glad that Trbo series radios have a form of privacy settings though. Interesting topic and discussion. I admit, even on my Garmin Rino 530's, I use speech inversion all the time with the people I talk with.
 
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