Erie County submission clarification

[GTR8000]

Received the following submission last night, and was hoping some locals could weigh in on it. Frankly, some of the proposed changes don't make much sense to me, such as the Buffalo PD Ch 1. That is currently listed as a P25 channel, yet the submitter is claiming it also has a PL of 151.4 for "Disaster Channel", as well as a DPL of 293? Seems perhaps the submitter was confused with the NAC of 293.


Erie County Sheriff Ch. 7 - 453.2125 NO LONGER IN USE

Erie County Countywide Police Channel (CPS Channel) 460.275 DPL 074 (TONE CHANGE)

Erie County Fire TAC 460.400 NO LONGER IN USE
Erie County Fire Ground #24 - 458.9125 PL 192.8 (NEW- TONE CHANGE)
Erie County Fire OPS VHF 2 - 154.370 PL 156.7 (NEW)

Erie County Countywide EMS Channel 463.100 DPL D054 (NEW)
Bertrand Chaffee Hospital Med - 92 (NO LONGER IN USE)

Buffalo Police Channel 1 - Buffalo Disaster Channel 460.325 PL 151.4 (This is also there F-1 Frequency with a DPL 293)

Buffalo Fire Channel 4 - LRRT Channel 453.775 DPL 155

 

[ak716]

Hahaha....he obviously just went to the same class I went to. Our county just put on a class for Emergency Mangers and radio nuts about using MutualLink and all the radio changes coming.

Sheriffs Channel 7 is still in use every Buffalo Bills game day. It is also used by outside departments, including my PD for Interop with Air-1....so id say no to deleting that..

Countywide PD tone change is correct, it is referred to as Countywide PD, and specifically that, because "CPS" is VHF-Hi for those agencies using VHF-Hi and are patched together 24/7.

Countywide Fire TAC is used, it is set as a repeated channel, however, many departments use is in direct mode (TAC) where they are in fringe areas

Erie County Fireground 24 tone change is correct

In regards to OPS VHF 2, thats correct. They are publishing out to agencies that still use VHF to use this old channel now for interops

Countywide EMS is correct. Its actually the NIOFG Med 5 channel, we got a license now for (IC and Erie County finally came to an agreement after years of rejection notices). It is going to be a simulcast/patch of 155.340. Its not being used yet, but its coming in the next month or two...allegidly. they gave us that change so we could get our radios reprogrammed. Currently its 155.340, EC Interops 2 and Med 92 all patched together.... EC Interops 2 and Med-92 are coming off that patch, and C/W EMS is going on that in the near future.

The Buffalo PD channel 1 thing is correct. I actually asked about that, its set for mixed mode because its meant for any agency, P25 or analog to be able to talk to BPD. It has a TX PL tone, and NAC of 293, and transmits in analog apparently.... the theory behind it is that DPW and Parking and whomever else could talk directly to BPD even though BPD strictly runs P25. It is still the Ch 1 for BPD, its just being used for dual purpose because BPD Ch 1 is Car to Car talk

and BFD Ch 4 is correct(ish). The info is correct, its meant for NFTA Interop with BFD, also outside agency Interop to BFD....Erie County county is referring to is BFD Ch 4, but its intention is BFD/NFTA LRRT Interop, but anyone outside BFD can use it.

I was leery about submitting info because I didn't wanna be the "leak" of the new info/changes that are coming, but seeing how its you, and someone already spilled the beans, I might as well give you the important stuffs and let you see what fits and what not. I attached the relevant docs and look around and do as you wish

I was planning on submitting the relevant stuff as is became active, but oh well

 

[ak716]

also...slightly worth noting... because of IC, we couldn't get licenses for UTAC42 and 43 for base stations because of alleged interference. Appearly 42 and 43 is used just north of the border. Also the reason why the med channels are just scattered, we can only use certain ones because of Canada. Last time we had agencies from across the state come here the State wanted them (specifically FDNY) to get on UTAC42 and they had some sort of hissy fit over them not being able to use it here.

 

[AK9R]

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[hiltopdog]

Erie County Fire OPS VHF 2 - 154.370 PL 156.7 (NEW)

154.370 is Part of the Cattaraugus Co. Trunked system

 

[GTR8000]

154.370 is Part of the Cattaraugus Co. Trunked system

Indeed it is, a control channel, in fact. And yet, that didn't stop Erie County from making it Fire VHF Ops 2.

 

[ak716]

Indeed it is, a control channel, in fact. And yet, that didn't stop Erie County from making it Fire VHF Ops 2.

Erie County has had those VHF Ops channels for years, they have been out there, just hardly used (to the best of my knowledge)

 

[mbstone99]

I have a question for you guys.. what is the usage for the EC 155.5800, 155.7300 and 460.2750 channels. The two say Countywide Police (UHF & VHF) and the 155.7300 says Police Agencies?

Matt

 

[otrip]

Regarding Erie County, Andy, you seem to be quite knowledgeable and you responses here are pretty easy to understand. I've been somewhat confused, more so recently. Admittedly I haven't been keeping up much in the whole "digital" mode age since a lot went dark and haven't been able to afford a good scanner or if it would be worth it with encryption and other technologies and platforms advancing. I have a SDR dongle I'm starting to figure out but it's a pain being tethered to my desktop. ECSO Dispatch is causing me all sorts of grief compared to others.

Anyways, I apologize if I should be starting a new thread for all this, I don't mean to hijack this thread and for all the questions. But I an wondering how and when some of the Ch's are used.
As you said EC Ch.7 is used for Bills games & Air-1. What is Ch.6 used for?
The "Countywide police" and "police agencies" Ch's are they more of an interop Ch's similar to the old intersystem?
What about the county fire Ch's? Are they primarily for larger scale events involving multiple departments that fall under different dispatch centers, or multiple counties?
You said County OPS VHF 2 is for agencies still using VHF-Hi. By that I'm assuming for neighboring county's to communicate with Erie county, as I'm seeing the only Erie county FD still using VHF is Elma's FG (Dispatched on UHF) & some dept's individual company CH's.
The newly listed "county interop" Ch's don't fall under any service (PD,FD,EMS), what is their use?
Also do you know what Ch. BPD reserves use now?