Evergreen Freq Change?

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I know Evergreen Fire is moving to VHF in the future. I have not heard any tone-outs and very little chatter on their primary dispatch 453.950 since Saturday. Only a few unit status calls. Has anyone heard if they already moved to VHF? I thought this was a ways off.

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Well never mind. After a week of not hearing anything, they just toned-out a call. I guess it's really slow. Go figure.
 

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Active repeater freqs heard up here are 151.2500, 155.775 and 155.9775 all using 103.5 PL.
 

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From a Community PHPBB2 website:

As of this morning (09/24/2013) EFR has now switched over to the new narrow band VHF system. Traffic will no longer be heard of the old UHF 453.950 frequency.

RadioReference.com - Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference Database ... N+DISTRICT

Why does this version of vBulletin truncate links that are internal to the RR site?
I will try this again and apologize for the wrong operation of the site on it's behalf.


and there is no space in the word DISTRICT in the link. It refers to the search tab in the RR.com database.
 

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Active repeater freqs heard up here are 151.2500, 155.775 and 155.9775 all using 103.5 PL.

From South Broomfield I'm hearing 155.9775 on 103.5 PL, haven't yet picked up the other two frequencies. They must be using multiple tower sites.
 

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From South Broomfield I'm hearing 155.9775 on 103.5 PL, haven't yet picked up the other two frequencies. They must be using multiple tower sites.

Yep, same here in Franktown, its now on my feed right speaker. Modulation is quieter than Evergreen's old UHF.
 

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155.9775 appears to be the dispatch channel/channel one. The other repeaters are probably channel 2, 3 or TACS depending on how they named them. I don't think anyone is in a hurry for an event requiring use of every channel all at once right away.

The new VHF channels will be lower in volume versus the UHF channels as the UHF channels were wideband. Older scanners and scanners such as the PRO-163 and 164 that that do not have the ability to switch to narrowband will have lower volume.
 

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I'm sorry for the stupid question, I really should know the answer to this.

My old scanner only has three digits to the right of the decimal point. When I put in 155.9775, the scanner defaults to 155.975.

Will I be able to monitor 155.9775 with the freq of 155.975?

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Evergreen Freq Change

Looks like 155.9775 is Chan 1, 151.2500 is Chan 2, and 155.7750 is Chan 3. I haven't heard any (channel) names associated with these channels. I'm hearing testing on Chan's 2 & 3.
 

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I'm sorry for the stupid question, I really should know the answer to this.

My old scanner only has three digits to the right of the decimal point. When I put in 155.9775, the scanner defaults to 155.975.

Will I be able to monitor 155.9775 with the freq of 155.975?

Thank you!

These are narrowband frequencies and you will need a more modern scanner.

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Looks like 155.9775 is Chan 1, 151.2500 is Chan 2, and 155.7750 is Chan 3. I haven't heard any (channel) names associated with these channels. I'm hearing testing on Chan's 2 & 3.

I've been hearing the exact same thing (radio testing on Ch. 2 & 3) this afternoon. At this point do we have enough info. to submit a RR database update?
 

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OK, another newbie question.

If there is a "Tx Frequency" and a "Rx Frequency", that are different frequencies, in order to receive both sides of a conversation, do you need to program both freqs into your scanner?

FWIW, I seem to be able to receive clear transmissions made on 155.9775 on my scanner with the freq 155.975, so far anyway...
 

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I'm sorry for the stupid question, I really should know the answer to this.

My old scanner only has three digits to the right of the decimal point. When I put in 155.9775, the scanner defaults to 155.975.

Will I be able to monitor 155.9775 with the freq of 155.975?

Thank you!

It should work. Try both 155.975 and 155.980 and go with whatever frequency sounds clearer to you on the scanner. Your audio level will be lower compared to the old UHF channels so you will need to turn the volume level up higher.
 

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OK, another newbie question.

If there is a "Tx Frequency" and a "Rx Frequency", that are different frequencies, in order to receive both sides of a conversation, do you need to program both freqs into your scanner?

FWIW, I seem to be able to receive clear transmissions made on 155.9775 on my scanner with the freq 155.975, so far anyway...

No. As I understand it, you will only see separate "Tx" and "Rx" frequencies with repeater systems which use separate "input" and "output" frequencies. For scanning purposes you only need to worry about the "output"/Tx frequency; if you have the output frequency you will pickup everything, period.
If you are located fairly close to the actual subscriber radios you could also monitor the "input" frequency, but you would be monitoring individual subscriber radios transmitting to the repeater, not the repeater itself.

In the RR database you will often see separate fields with input and output repeater frequencies; the bottom line is that all traffic from the input frequency gets routed to the OUTPUT frequency; consequently for scanning purposes you only need to worry about the output frequency.

Typically you would only monitor repeater input frequencies if you wanted to study frequency allocations, analyze subscriber radio usage patterns, check for system changes/modifications/updates, etc (assuming you were close enough to hear subscriber radios to begin with).
 
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Evergreen Freq Change

In addition to the repeater frequencies discussed here, does anyone know if there will be simplex frequencies used for fireground/scene ops? Or maybe use talk-around mode? The FCC site seems to be shut down, so I couldn't check the license data.
 

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In addition to the repeater frequencies discussed here, does anyone know if there will be simplex frequencies used for fireground/scene ops? Or maybe use talk-around mode? The FCC site seems to be shut down, so I couldn't check the license data.

Here are the licensed Evergreen VFPD frequencies contained on the RR website. Can't tell from the list if they are simplex or repeater, but its a place for you to start:
Colorado Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference
 
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