Expression "will co"?

[KB4REA]

Listening to military comms I hear the expression "will co" alot at the end of transmissions.

What exactly does that mean??

Will contact??

 

[N4UYV_Al]

Will Comply

 

[KB4REA]

Thanks, man

Will Comply

I was trying to think of all the words that start with "co"
comply wasn't one of them...thanks

 

[CLB]

And.....there is NO (meaning you might be shot by a military radioman for saying this) Roger Wilco or Over and Out.

 

[DPD1]

Listening to military comms I hear the expression "will co" alot at the end of transmissions.

That's funny, because it's a fairly old term, and I rarely hear it used at all anymore around my area.

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[scansomd]

Listening to military comms I hear the expression "will co" alot at the end of transmissions.

What exactly does that mean??

Will contact??

In military communications (speaking from 20+ years experience) WILCO means "Will Comply". The only person allowed to say "WILCO" on the radio is the Commanding Officer or the Office In Charge of the aircraft. The reason is this: WILCO means the vessel, aircraft, whatever, WILL COMPLY and carry out whatever was requested / ordered. Only the CO can make that determination.

 

[KB4REA]

In military communications (speaking from 20+ years experience) WILCO means "Will Comply". The only person allowed to say "WILCO" on the radio is the Commanding Officer or the Office In Charge of the aircraft. The reason is this: WILCO means the vessel, aircraft, whatever, WILL COMPLY and carry out whatever was requested / ordered. Only the CO can make that determination.

Thinking about it, I hear it mostly (if not, solely) from the P-3 Orions
flying patterns around here between NAS Jax and Cecil Field.

That's funny, because it's a fairly old term, and I rarely hear it used at all anymore around my area.

Dave

Interesting about it being an older term. There might be some others they use that I'm forgetting about right now. Wilco has always stuck out, I thought I was missing part of a word or something everytime, I'm glad I finally asked.

 

[ColoradoRedlands]

And.....there is NO (meaning you might be shot by a military radioman for saying this) Roger Wilco or Over and Out.

Thanks for pointing that out to the folks.

"Over and Out" by itself is bad enough.

 

[CLB]

Interesting about it being an older term. There might be some others they use that I'm forgetting about right now. Wilco has always stuck out, I thought I was missing part of a word or something everytime, I'm glad I finally asked.

Listening to the CG here in Charleston, we get about 4-5 Pan and Securite per day, each pertaining to something different. Rarely a Mayday, and usually the Pan calls are Mayday relays from someone else pertaining to a garbled distress call 100 miles away or so.

 

[KB4REA]

OK, got another one for you guys....

Again, from P-3 Orions doing touch-n-go's, they'll say something like "gear down three analock?? analog??" something like that, every go around.

Are they just confirming that the landing gear is down? Is that the procedure to follow?

I've never noticed that in commercial aviation; they don't have to confirm that their ldg. gear is down to the tower, right?

Some other questions for those in the know out there:
What kind of training is going on with these T-N-G's?
Is it just flight training for the P-3's?
Are they operating some type of special equipment in the A/C?

They're up flying all the time. The Vikings aren't up nearly as much.

Just curious, thanks.

 

[CORN]

They have to have so many landings and takeoff's and T & G's keep them current. Training is everything in the military. And yes when most military a/c check in with the tower for landing you'll hear them call "gear down", "three green and locked" or maybe "standby gear" right before they drop the wheels. They just have different criteria and calling gear down upon landing is part of the protocol. I know here in Nashville some of our controllers are bozo's when it comes to the military. The pilots are calling the base and gear down like their trained to do and i heard on controller say "i told you already your cleared to land" the pilots kind of shrugged him off. But we also have some good ones too. There's one controller that will actually reaspond by saying, for example: "MUSIC 87, check gear down, runway 2C cleared to land". So i all evens out i guess.

 

[KB4REA]

"three green and locked"

THAT'S IT!!

Man, it was so hard to figure out what they were saying talking so fast but I'm sure I'll understand perfectly now knowing the words.

Oh, but why green? I guess a green light comes on when wheels are down and locked...

 

[VernM]

"Down and locked" is the term. Aircraft landing gear design has an over-center hinged brace behind the main shaft. You can visually easily confirm whether it is down and that back strut is straight in its angle to meet the main landing gear post.. If not, it is not "down and locked."

 

[SkipSanders]

Just for information, the reason you will draw a 'What an IDIOT' response with 'over and out' is that they're two mutually exclusive responses.

'Over' means, I am ceasing to transmit, and listening for you now, and 'Out' means 'I am ceasing transmission AND ceasing to listen to this channel right now.

So, 'over' means 'I will be listening for a response', and 'out' means 'I won't be listening for a response'. Don't work together at all.

For a nice list of official Army 'Prowords', which is what these are called, go here:

Prowords

 

[K0ATC]

I know here in Nashville some of our controllers are bozo's when it comes to the military. The pilots are calling the base and gear down like their trained to do and i heard on controller say "i told you already your cleared to land" the pilots kind of shrugged him off. But we also have some good ones too. There's one controller that will actually reaspond by saying, for example: "MUSIC 87, check gear down, runway 2C cleared to land". So i all evens out i guess.

All military aircraft have to report gear down, and as a military controller you are required to say check wheels down in your landing clearance, not only to the military aircraft but all civil aircraft as well no matter what type of aircraft they are. We would always get heck from helicopters and Cessna’s that would say "down and welded" So I guess it goes both ways LOL, but that is unprofessional on the controllers part. It does get annoying, but its part of the job, I'm now a civilian controller, but we are right next to an air force base, and have a ton of training flights. All the controllers that work with me are prior air force controllers as well so it works out nicely for the military trainers. We even correct the trainees sometimes, as a joke, if I could only see their faces.

Scott

 

[KL]

THAT'S IT!!

Oh, but why green? I guess a green light comes on when wheels are down and locked...

Landing gear indicator lights in the cockpit are red when they are retracted, green when they are fully extended and locked.