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Like that is a bad thing.."Extra class" is just additional bandwidth. You can be just as clueless in the General class portion of the band. It's called trial by fire.
Maybe you misunderstood what I said.
Your statement is part of the issue. If Extra is truly just extra bandwidth than why require a different test for it at all? Why not just one test that results in one license class, and everyone has it all. Supposedly, by virtue of extra testing, an Extra class licensee has demonstrated “more” knowledge and understanding of ham radio than a Technician or a General. In the past it also meant he/she had more experience. If this is not the case (license classes based on knowledge) then why not just have different license classes cost different fees, and then you can just “buy” the access you want without bothering to take a test?
A clueless operator is a problem, no matter what his class. Of course, it is reasonably expected for “new” operators (in the past lower class licensees, which was my point), but a holder of the highest class license should have some concept of what they are expected to do, or why bother to have classes at all? This is why the Technician has such a small segment of the HF spectrum, and a power limitation (both features inherited from the original newbie license, the Novice), so that he/she can build HF experience with the least probability of disrupting the bands, other than the immediate spectrum around them. VHF and UHF have almost always been harder to mess up on (generally appliance type operations), with more localized results if you do, and so make a very good learning ground.
^^^ I agree with that poster. For example, just look at the increase in ranks when the code requirement was dropped. This hobby is an old man's game nowadays. If younger people don't get interested then it dies with you.
This hobby has always been an “old man’s” game as you put it. The “old men” of today (probably should include myself in that) often remember and talk about getting into the hobby young, but their Elmers were generally “old”, and they themselves (todays old hams) were then the minority in the hobby. Sure, there was fresh blood in it, driven by things like radio clubs in schools and Scouts, but the majority of the hams have always been post school, mostly middle class with disposable income. The key players have always been on the older side of the spectrum. Today the fresh blood is harder to draw, but that is mostly because it is hard for ham radio to compete with the internet, PS4, and Xbox. Schools today generally can’t afford such clubs (even though costs were quite small in the past, often with donated equipment), they can’t afford clean bathrooms in many cases.
You seem to have missed what I was saying. I never said make testing harder at all, and I thoroughly believe code is not required today. What I said was make the testing, and resultant privileges, representative of the persons knowledge level, instead of representative of their ability to remember the correct answers, regardless of if they know what the answers mean. And no, I have no idea how to do that. But until you do then the naming convention, and the “classes” of license, are meaningless.
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