Sentinel: Fairfax County Virginia

marjarrit1

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I have the Uniden bcd436hp using sentinel software. Normally, I can listen to Fairfax fire and rescue using the favorites list for Fairfax. However, now I cant pick it up on my favorites list but can pick it up when i turn the full database on. Any suggestions? I tried deleting and reloading under Sentinel but no luck.

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Press menu key, scroll to Set Scan Selection (press E or scroll knob) > Manage Favorites Lists (E) > Select Lists to Monitor (E). Make sure applicable FL is set "on". Also all service types need to be turned on for the talkgroups you want to hear (reference "tag" column per talkgroup table in the RRDB). If you set quick keys at the FL, system, site and/or department levels, these need to be turned on as well
 

hiegtx

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In addition to what Whiskey3 mentioned, check your Profile in Sentinel. Make sure that your Favorites lists are set to be downloaded when you write to the scanner from Sentinel. And, for those that you want to be monitored, set that as well in your Sentinel profile.
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I have the Uniden bcd436hp using sentinel software. Normally, I can listen to Fairfax fire and rescue using the favorites list for Fairfax. However, now I cant pick it up on my favorites list but can pick it up when i turn the full database on. Any suggestions? I tried deleting and reloading under Sentinel but no luck.

Thx

Looks like the issue also effects my other favorite lists.
The Fairfax system uses a simulcast site, which can be a problem. However, since you are able to monitor without problems when using the main database, it's apparently not affecting you at your location.

Did you create your lists by appending from the main database? or by entering everything manually? If entered manually (not appended) did you also manually enter the location data for your systems? If not, and left those fields blank, then don't use location control on your Favorites lists, A blank location is treated as if it is in the Atlantic Ocean, off the coast of Africa. Obviously, not in range.

If, as noted above, making sure your lists are set to be monitored does not solve your problems, then there's something missing, or set incorrectly in your lists. Service types likely are not an issue, since you can hear your systems when using the main database. (Service types not correctly enabled are a very common error on these database scanners, but since the full database works, it's probably not something that needs attention in your specific case.)

Export your Favorites list and post it so that we can take a look & help you solve any problems. To do that, click on the drop-down File menu in Sentinel.
Select "Export to hpe file (Favorites lists)

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Sentinel will generate a pop-up window with all your lists displayed. Pick the list you want,
Then, you'll get a box for you to choose which systems to export. Make sure all of them are checked, & press OK to proceed.

Sentinel will create the *.hpe file and give you the option where to save it. (The default name will be that of the source Favorites list, but you can, instead, use a different name.) Note where the file is being saved. (The default is usually the Documents folder, but you can save elsewhere if you want.)

Once your file is saved, open Windows Explorer (called File Explorer on some Windows versions).
Find your saved file. Then, right click on it. You'll get a pop-up menu with options.

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You want to compress it to a Zip file. You cannot attach an hpe file to a post, but you can do that with a Zip file. (If you don't see the 'Compress' choice, you should see, instead, "Send To". Use that, which will pop-out a menu on where to send it. One of the options will be to compress the file. Use that.)

Once you have the Zip file created, you can attach it to a post. Then we can open it & see what might need changes or adjustments.
 

marjarrit1

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Thanks for your help. Hopefully this worked. I am using a mac with Parallels windows 11.
 

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hiegtx

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Thanks for your help. Hopefully this worked. I am using a mac with Parallels windows 11.
As tvengr noted, that while you do have the frequencies for the sites entered, you did not include the talkgroups.

Here's a revised file with both sites & talkgroups entered. You can take a look, then either delete, or set as avoid, any talkgroups not of interest.

I suspect that, what you might have done, was append the two trunked systems from the database, but then, perhaps unintentionally. "cleaned them up" by removing everything but the sites. You need both the sites as well as the various departments containing talkgroups.
 

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tvengr

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Here is a hpe favorites list file with just the Fairfax Co VA P25 trunked system Fire Ops talkgroups. Save the attached zipped file to your computer and extract. Go to the File tab in Sentinel and click on Import from hpe file (Favorites List). Click on New Favorites List and name it: Fairfax Co Fire Click on OK. In the Downloads folder, open the extracted file (Fairfax Co Fire.hpe). It will appear as a favorites list in Sentinel.
 

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donc13

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Also, when I am driving I pick up a lot of Loudoun County but nothing at home. Is there an antenna that would help. I purchased a Diamond SRH999 earlier and this didn’t help.

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Marc

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How far are you away from their radio sites? Are there any higher hills between your home and their sites? Etc.
 

marjarrit1

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How far are you away from their radio sites? Are there any higher hills between your home and their sites? Etc.
Hi, I have 3 radio repeaters that are close to my home. Ashburn-6miles,Dulles Airport= 4miles and Herndon- 2 miles. There are no high hills between my home and their sites. It seems I lose Loudoun County when I am approx a mile from my home.
 

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Also, when I am driving I pick up a lot of Loudoun County but nothing at home. Is there an antenna that would help. I purchased a Diamond SRH999 earlier and this didn’t help.
The BCD436HP may be experiencing simulcast distortion. You may need less antenna. Try turning on the attenuator. You can also try removing the antenna and replacing it with a paperclip. Simulcast distortion is very location specific. The Loudoun County site consists of many subsites all transmitting on the same frequency at the same time. The signals from the subsites arrive at your scanner at slightly different times which degrades the scanner's ability to properly decode the control channel. If you can reduce the number of subsites received, it can improve control channel decoding. If you are very close to a subsite, it can override the out of phase interference from the other subsites. The only scanners specifically designed to receive simulcast sites are the Uniden SDS100 handheld and SDS200 base/mobile. The Unication G4 and G5 pagers are excellent with simulcast but can only receive one system and one site at a time. You are limited to 64 talkgroups on each knob position.
 
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