FCC finally goes after Baofeng

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

The FCC is owned by the telecom cartels. They really could care less about part 90, 95, 97, and anything that isn't an LTE band. It's an annoyance to them and they (along with the cartels) want it to go away. If allowing a few million Baoturd spurious/unauthorized emission generators into the hands of the general public who use them to fill that LMR/PMR spectrum with hash and trash gets more users to transition to the cartels' networks where everything is "pay to play", it's a win-win for the FCC and their constituents.

The engineering minded people were ejected out of the agency decades ago. Current chairman is a shill for the cartels. Look at his bio. This is all a dog and pony show. Nothing will happen. And plenty of jamming CCRs will continue to be sold.

I agree entirely. It gets me pissed when folks try to argue against getting a GMRS license because it only sets the stage for GMRS to be erased entirely and the band handed over to commercial interests. It is after all in the midst of prime real estate. The FCC has already eroded the band edges of Part 95 (against their own logic) by handing over the upper 12.5 KHz slices to Part 90. The long ago, elimination of the requirement to license base stations and repeaters by location has set the stage for zero interference protection of incumbent stations, from interlopers.

Allowing a free for all will force the FCC "to make a decision" and you can bet it will be ex-parte meetings from vendors, carriers and their attorneys making the decisions, not letters written by a tiny number of legit users. Part 97 is constantly on attack for their shared UHF and microwave spectrum.

 

[bill4long]

It gets me pissed when folks try to argue against getting a GMRS license because it only sets the stage for GMRS to be erased entirely and the band handed over to commercial interests. It is after all in the midst of prime real estate.

Doesn't seem likely given the fact the FCC recently changed the rules to allow the 1/2 watt license-free FRS radios to legally transmit on the GMRS frequencies. The cat is long out of the bag. UHF goes all the way up to 512mhz now, and there are the 700mhz, 800mhz and 900mhz bands. Heck, several years ago they took 2 megahertz from the 220 mhz ham band, and nobody ended up using it. Doesn't appear to be any shortage of channels these days. I don't think GMRS is in any danger.

 

[SCPD]

Ok so they totally stop Baofeng, There's still Quansheng,,Wouxun,Baojie,Puxing, to name a few more.
$25 and you have a 5 watt radio. You can not stop China, think of all the people that oppose our president, he wanted to stop imports, but no the American people love cheap. The funny thing is how long it takes to get something FCC type accepted and they let these little $25 radios come flooding right through the gates. Spurious emissions much? Whos going to tell Tommy and Suzy they can't use their $25 toys to talk to each other?

 

[K7MFC]

You can not stop China, think of all the people that oppose our president, he wanted to stop imports, but no the American people love cheap.

The FCC can't and won't attempt to stop Chinese radio manufacturers. That's way out of the scope of the FCC's assigned duties. What the FCC can do is continue to hit wholesalers and retailers in the US that offer these radios for sale knowing that the radios aren't' actually type-accepted for their customers' applications. If the FCC started sniffing around Amazon and they decided to pull all Baofengs from their site, that might actually make some ripples. If a message is sent that selling these radios can cost your business much more than it will generate in income, they will largely disappear for sale from most popular outlets.

 

[KK4JUG]

The FCC can't and won't attempt to stop Chinese radio manufacturers. That's way out of the scope of the FCC's assigned duties. What the FCC can do is continue to hit wholesalers and retailers in the US that offer these radios for sale knowing that the radios aren't' actually type-accepted for their customers' applications. If the FCC started sniffing around Amazon and they decided to pull all Baofengs from their site, that might actually make some ripples. If a message is sent that selling these radios can cost your business much more than it will generate in income, they will largely disappear for sale from most popular outlets.

Realistically, that's the only way to do it. BUT, it will still be a gargantuan task. Like I said earlier, it's probably too little, too late.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Doesn't seem likely given the fact the FCC recently changed the rules to allow the 1/2 watt license-free FRS radios to legally transmit on the GMRS frequencies. The cat is long out of the bag. UHF goes all the way up to 512mhz now, and there are the 700mhz, 800mhz and 900mhz bands. Heck, several years ago they took 2 megahertz from the 220 mhz ham band, and nobody ended up using it. Doesn't appear to be any shortage of channels these days. I don't think GMRS is in any danger.

The UHF band will no longer include T band 470 to 512 MHz. Those existing users will be displaced by TV whitespace auctions.

GMRS is like a messy makeshift playground surrounded by urban sprawl.

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[SCPD]

GMRS seems very quiet here in the NYC area, I don't think people even use FRS or GMRS for too
much anymore they use cellphones. I monitor it with my scanners and don't hear too much even with a base antenna.Cobra and other manufacturers include the GMRS channels with digital codes even with legal FRS radios and they are type accepted. How? Even some radios have a "scrambler" which is like a voice inversion or digital squelch. My friend has a pair of them.
The Btec's and Baofeng's do not come programmed with these channels ,instead they have random UHF and VHF frequencies that have "services". What is the correct thing to lock a Baofeng down with
MURS channels? I tried emailing them and they really could care less.They're making $.

 

[AK9R]

Heck, several years ago they took 2 megahertz from the 220 mhz ham band, and nobody ended up using it.

That 2 MHz is currently being used in most parts of the U.S. for Positive Train Control systems on the railroads.