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Figuring out voice and data frequencies Steamboat Resort Colorado

kickflip

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Hi, I am currently programming Steamboat Resorts's Capacity Plus Multi-site system into my XPR7550e for a trip I have coming up. When adding voice channels to the Cap+ voice list I ran into the problem of maxing out the list at 8 voice frequencies. Then remembered data freq also exists haha. Could someone help me differentiate the voice and data frequencies below, I assume there will be 8 voice and 4 data but could be wrong, I have only programmed MotoTRBO Cap+ Single Sites before. Thanks for any help!
FYI: I like listening in on ski resort ops, I do not or ever intend on keying up on someone else's system that I am not a part of.

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I don't know....because I'm at about the same learning stage as you are. But suspect you could setup each site into a different channel pool and then select a different personality for each site that you want to monitor.
If you have resolved this on your own....please let us know so we can all learn what you did.
Thanks!
 

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I don't know....because I'm at about the same learning stage as you are. But suspect you could setup each site into a different channel pool and then select a different personality for each site that you want to monitor.
If you have resolved this on your own....please let us know so we can all learn what you did.
Thanks!
Each site needs to be programmed with it's own voice list.

Where it changes is in the creating of the Capacity Plus Site List and channels.

With the site list, you create the number of sites the system has. Then each one will get a voice list, and RX group list. Also needs the RSSI threshold needs to be set to help the radio roam. Default is about -108 but varies with the client and how close/far each site is from each other.


Once the site lists are setup, then you work on the channels for your zone.
When you create the channel, you will select the channel type "Capacity Plus Personality Linked".
This is were it will change up from creating like other channels.
In the "General" section, check the "Auto Roam" box (assuming they don't use GPS for roaming which I haven't figured out yet) and right below that you will add your Site List you created previously.
Because the site list has the RX Groups, you don't need to worry about it not showing in the RX section.
Repeat as needed for the sites created.

To prevent accidental transmissions, leave the "Contact Name" as NONE in the TX section.
Without contact name, radio will never transmit. But you can enjoy listening all you want.

If you have CPS 2.0, you should be able to read this code plug I've made for my R7 to help you understand this a bit more.
 

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kickflip

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Each site needs to be programmed with it's own voice list.

Where it changes is in the creating of the Capacity Plus Site List and channels.

With the site list, you create the number of sites the system has. Then each one will get a voice list, and RX group list. Also needs the RSSI threshold needs to be set to help the radio roam. Default is about -108 but varies with the client and how close/far each site is from each other.


Once the site lists are setup, then you work on the channels for your zone.
When you create the channel, you will select the channel type "Capacity Plus Personality Linked".
This is were it will change up from creating like other channels.
In the "General" section, check the "Auto Roam" box (assuming they don't use GPS for roaming which I haven't figured out yet) and right below that you will add your Site List you created previously.
Because the site list has the RX Groups, you don't need to worry about it not showing in the RX section.
Repeat as needed for the sites created.

To prevent accidental transmissions, leave the "Contact Name" as NONE in the TX section.
Without contact name, radio will never transmit. But you can enjoy listening all you want.

If you have CPS 2.0, you should be able to read this code plug I've made for my R7 to help you understand this a bit more.
This is pretty much exactly what I did thanks for writing it out for future reference
 

Steve_eo

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Each site needs to be programmed with it's own voice list.

Where it changes is in the creating of the Capacity Plus Site List and channels.

With the site list, you create the number of sites the system has. Then each one will get a voice list, and RX group list. Also needs the RSSI threshold needs to be set to help the radio roam. Default is about -108 but varies with the client and how close/far each site is from each other.


Once the site lists are setup, then you work on the channels for your zone.
When you create the channel, you will select the channel type "Capacity Plus Personality Linked".
This is were it will change up from creating like other channels.
In the "General" section, check the "Auto Roam" box (assuming they don't use GPS for roaming which I haven't figured out yet) and right below that you will add your Site List you created previously.
Because the site list has the RX Groups, you don't need to worry about it not showing in the RX section.
Repeat as needed for the sites created.

To prevent accidental transmissions, leave the "Contact Name" as NONE in the TX section.
Without contact name, radio will never transmit. But you can enjoy listening all you want.

If you have CPS 2.0, you should be able to read this code plug I've made for my R7 to help you understand this a bit more.
Screenshot 2024-10-19 at 21.58.15.png
Thank you for posting the ctb2 file! I tried to read it into CPS 2.0 but got the above error.
Am I doing something wrong?
 

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Thank you for posting the ctb2 file! I tried to read it into CPS 2.0 but got the above error.
Am I doing something wrong?
I have no clue what this means. I'm sorry you're having issues with opening the CP.

Here's a PDF with screenshots. Hopefully this will help.
 

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Thank you for posting the ctb2 file! I tried to read it into CPS 2.0 but got the above error.
Am I doing something wrong?
The ctb2 file was created using a newer version of CPS than you are opening it with. You need to install CPS 2.0.146 or newer to open the file.
 

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The ctb2 file was created using a newer version of CPS than you are opening it with. You need to install CPS 2.0.146 or newer to open the file.
For reference, I created the ctb2 file with CPS 2 ver 2.146.122.0
 

Bockage

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Did you end up going to steamboat and using the radio? Did your config work? I'll be heading to steamboat in a few weeks and considering getting an XPR7550e to monitor lift ops there.
 

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Did you end up going to steamboat and using the radio? Did your config work? I'll be heading to steamboat in a few weeks and considering getting an XPR7550e to monitor lift ops there.
Found this thread looking for something else, and while I'm not the OP, I have successfully monitored the boats system with a cap+ multi site codeplug I built from scratch. Worked really well actually. They have a really expansive system, we primarily wanted to listen to lift ops and patrol and slope maint, so we only focused on those TG's/
 

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Found this thread looking for something else, and while I'm not the OP, I have successfully monitored the boats system with a cap+ multi site codeplug I built from scratch. Worked really well actually. They have a really expansive system, we primarily wanted to listen to lift ops and patrol and slope maint, so we only focused on those TG's/
Nice! I built out their system in cps but I cancelled my trip last minute so I never got to test if it worked right. I mainly programmed those TGs too
 

kickflip

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Wolf creek looks like it’s on a Capacity Max system so you cannot monitor it with a Motorola radio (ex xpr7550e) like you can with a capacity plus single or multi site system. Capacity Max systems require radios to be registered and authenticated on the system making it impossible to monitor with a Motorola radio (unless your radio is added to the system by the system operator)

You will need a scanner that can trunk track
 

Bockage

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Update after my boat trip. I was trying to figure out the XPR but had no way to verify I was doing it right at home, so I ended up returning it and buying a BCD436HP and the DMR upgrade instead, and that worked great. That said, the thing's huge and I wish I'd had the motorola in my pocket instead. The RR database config (that sentinel includes) is just about there. Has all the right frequencies and everything. But there are a few TG's that weren't in the list but popped up when I turned on TG search mode.
 
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