FINDING THE CONTROL CHANNEL WPMX952

[mrlthse]

Greeting Utah,
I"ve been monitoring callsign 952 which is listed out of Salt Lake County
and have not been able to pick up there "control channel" from my residence in Davis Co.
Can anyone assist?

 

[enosjones]

Can we get more info, like a frequency?

 

[u2brent]

FCC Callsign WPMX952 (SALT LAKE, COUNTY OF)

FCC Callsign WPMX952 (SALT LAKE, COUNTY OF)

www.radioreference.com

16K0F3E *

Frequency modulated (FM) analog voice, 4 kHz deviation (NPSPAC); (FM mode in RadioReference.com Database)

Appears to be part of this system:

Utah Communications Authority Trunking System, Various, Multi-State

Utah Communications Authority Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

643E	015 (F)	Point of Mountain	Salt Lake, UT	853.725c	852.8875a	851.7875	852.2875	851.325	852.575	853.250
643E	016 (10)	ADC Jail	Salt Lake, UT	853.9375c	853.4375a	853.0375	851.675	852.775	867.325

7202	003 (3)	Salt Lake County Simulcast	Salt Lake, UT	851.875	852.150	852.175	852.400	852.425	852.6875	852.725
				853.0875a	853.1125c	853.4125	853.5125a	853.6625	854.5875	855.4625
				856.2375	856.3125	856.6125	856.9875	857.9375	859.4625	859.7375
				860.7125	866.3625

7202

011 (B)

Nelson Peak

Salt Lake, UT

851.0375

851.100

851.125

851.375

851.650a

851.700a

851.400

7202

013 (D)

Parley's Canyon

Salt Lake, UT

851.1625

853.6375c

851.4625

852.0375

852.8625

851.750a

852.350

7202

025 (19)

Scotts Peak

Salt Lake, UT

853.6125c

856.4625

857.9875a

7202

036 (24)

Cliff Lodge

Salt Lake, UT

851.300

852.0625a

852.550c

853.8375

853.8875

 

[wtp]

might be too far away or too much in between.

 

[mrlthse]

Can we get more info, like a frequency?

Greeting,
You can pull the list up on the FCC site (As I did) The list is large.

 

[mrlthse]

might be too far away or too much in between.

It's not that far away, I pick up the800Mhz freq with the same power level and siting from my residence using a Rohn 25 foot tower and discone.
I just can't hear a control chanel so that I can log it down .

 

[u2brent]

Appears to be this site specifically

Utah Communications Authority Site: ADC Jail

Utah Communications Authority Site: ADC Jail Details

www.radioreference.com

CC's are Red and Blue (if accurate)
I'd imagine you'll hear corrections facilities personnel primarily if following the frequencies conventionally .

 

[mrlthse]

OK, I still can not copy the control channel,
I retried with my Icom 8500 receiver,
I'll just have to take the group word and let it go,
Thank you for you help.
Hang in there Hunker down and enjoy life as it is.
Chris K7CDS

 

[mrlthse]

might be too far away or too much in between.

One of the other member pointed out the fact that its a "dention facility" and could be restricting there broadcast.
I'll log it in and let it go at that.
Thanks to all
Chris K7CDS

 

[u2brent]

That Site I posted may be verified, That's not to say that everything about that license is verified, You may have nuggets to find on some of those sites and frequencies on the license, The Jail may only be one of the locations listed and using only enough power to cover a specific area, It may have many purposes and users (just not found yet).

 

[mrlthse]

At my residence (down the street from RC Wiley, Syracuse) I can pick up a few more sites than expected.
I can barely hear "Point of the Mountain",
But I can hear Utah Co. lake with full quieting,
I can not hear brigham city, But I can Hear Treamonton VHF UHP nicely (S-6),
So Just like the 800 Trunking system, it a hit and miss condition and some of the salt lake freqs are easy some are harder to hear,
it's better if there is an overcast art times.
Fun Times.

 

[mrlthse]

I just wounder how they at UCA establishes the range of transmission.
They say this has a five mile range, where other have a much broader angle,
Something to think about.

 

[u2brent]

The site ranges in the RR DB are set by the Admins judgement and generally are only large enough to cover the intended jurisdiction that is targeted, like a county or city or even a specific facility (ie a Jail). The signals can travel much further than the suggested RR DB range setting. They need to keep the range tight to the intended target, this is important for those who utilize GPS (and Zip Codes) location for scanning.

You'll also want to take note of the authorized power for each location & frequencies on a license to determine what range they intend to cover.. Maybe the jail location has a lower power, I did not dig that deep..

I also keep these resources close at hand.
Emission Designator - The RadioReference Wiki
FCC Radio Service Codes - The RadioReference Wiki
FCC Station Class Codes - The RadioReference Wiki

 

[gldavis]

Historically (hysterically) I have found the Jail site to be a hit or miss. If you are close or in a good location (Legacy Parkway & 500 South, Woods Cross), you can "hear" the site.
As for range, that varies a lot. Take a best guess, and see.

 

[mrlthse]

I have been able to hear them once or twice,
But now that I know who and where they are at,
I will most like just lock them out and monitor callsign KNJU695 AND WQIF657
at least I can copy them at my residence with a s-6 strength