wymank
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for anyone in the Clinton county area, I have the fire pager tones handy. Anyone that needs them, let me know, I'll be glad to forward them on to you..
Fire Pager Tones
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DaveNF2G
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Please send them to feedback@nf2g.com so I can put them online for everyone. I already have tones for 46 counties online.
radionerd13669
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Is clinton county all 800mhz now???
For all regular radio traffic, the county is using a Motorola 800 MHz. trunking system.
Fire & EMS Paging, however, operates on 153.875 MHz. It is a four or five site simulcast system and it has quite a reach.
Kevin
Fire & EMS Paging, however, operates on 153.875 MHz. It is a four or five site simulcast system and it has quite a reach.
Kevin
wymank
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No sir. Clinton County NY Fire/ EMS operates on 153.8750, We do not have a simulcast what so ever, All Clinton County Fire Operations and there Mutual Aids Fire operations run on 800mhz.
Thank you for asking this question cause some people do not have a clue about are radio set up.
No sir. Clinton County NY Fire/ EMS operates on 153.8750, We do not have a simulcast what so ever, All Clinton County Fire Operations and there Mutual Aids Fire operations run on 800mhz.
Thank you for asking this question cause some people do not have a clue about are radio set up.
trainman111
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Darn! I wish you had posted this when I had lived up there!
The last time I checked, both the VHF paging channel and the 800 system was a four site simulcast system. There are transmitters on Rand Hill in Beekmantown, Churubusco, Champlain and Terry Mountain in Keeseville. Did they turn off the simulcast network?
When I lived in Alburg, that's the way the county had it set up. It has been a few years though, and I guess they could have done something different.
Kevin
When I lived in Alburg, that's the way the county had it set up. It has been a few years though, and I guess they could have done something different.
Kevin
wymank
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The county like i said runs on 153.8750 which operates on all of them towers, However our dispatch isnt patched threw the 800mhz, Grand Isle Fire Control uses our champlain repeater for all of there M/A Requests via 800mhz, if you were to ask any Grand Isle FF and looked at there portable, Grand Isle FC runs on 154.190 however clinton county is patched threw there FC dispatch.
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DaveNF2G
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wymank, I don't think you are interpreting "simulcast" the way everyone else does.
Nobody said anything about patching VHF to 800 MHz. The VHF signal is simultaneously transmitted from the 4 tower sites mentioned by LathamScan.
Nobody said anything about patching VHF to 800 MHz. The VHF signal is simultaneously transmitted from the 4 tower sites mentioned by LathamScan.
Actually, Grand Isle County for the most part abandoned 154.190 several years ago and went to their own 800 conventional system. Dispatch and operations is on 868.500 MHz., and paging, which is now done by Contact Dispatch, is done over their 152.480 digital paging network. This was one of the last things I did on the county's emergency services committee before I left Vermont.
Alburg Fire & Rescue, with Isle La Motte Fire to a lesser extent, are the only ones still using 154.190 but only for car to car use. This will be changing as they have a grant to expand their VHF system to include a new repeater and possibly a voted receiver system.
Also, Alburg Fire & Rescue have Motorola 800 MHz. Smartnet radios (Maxtracs or MCS2000) installed in almost all of their apparatus, as well as a control station in the radio room and I also believe one portable which they take when they go to Clinton County for a call. Isle La Motte did not buy any mobile radios, but do have at least one portable radio, which they also use when responding mutual aid to Clinton County.
Time was all of the 800 towers were linked together and simulcasted all traffic so that no matter where in the county you were, you would hear your traffic. I guess there would be a logical reason why they turned this feature off, but I honestly don't understand why except possibly to keep radio traffic 'localized' within each zone or tower, in order to re-use the same frequencies in the system at different towers with different conversations, in order to increase the system capabilities (that was always an issue in the past, too many users and not enough frequencies in the system). I guess then that all of the TAC-1 talkgroups are assigned to the Champlain & Churubusco towers, TAC-2 talkgroups to Rand Hill and TAC-3 talkgroups to Terry Mountain, unless the entire fire/ems system was changed. Personally, I liked it when I could be in downtown Plattsburgh and listen to a working fire in Rouses Point.
Alburg Fire & Rescue, with Isle La Motte Fire to a lesser extent, are the only ones still using 154.190 but only for car to car use. This will be changing as they have a grant to expand their VHF system to include a new repeater and possibly a voted receiver system.
Also, Alburg Fire & Rescue have Motorola 800 MHz. Smartnet radios (Maxtracs or MCS2000) installed in almost all of their apparatus, as well as a control station in the radio room and I also believe one portable which they take when they go to Clinton County for a call. Isle La Motte did not buy any mobile radios, but do have at least one portable radio, which they also use when responding mutual aid to Clinton County.
Time was all of the 800 towers were linked together and simulcasted all traffic so that no matter where in the county you were, you would hear your traffic. I guess there would be a logical reason why they turned this feature off, but I honestly don't understand why except possibly to keep radio traffic 'localized' within each zone or tower, in order to re-use the same frequencies in the system at different towers with different conversations, in order to increase the system capabilities (that was always an issue in the past, too many users and not enough frequencies in the system). I guess then that all of the TAC-1 talkgroups are assigned to the Champlain & Churubusco towers, TAC-2 talkgroups to Rand Hill and TAC-3 talkgroups to Terry Mountain, unless the entire fire/ems system was changed. Personally, I liked it when I could be in downtown Plattsburgh and listen to a working fire in Rouses Point.
wymank
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contact wireless you mean? cause i have grand isle fc under 868.500 for Dispatch/ Tones. although I never hear any tones nor do i hear fireground ops. all i hear is their enroute calls.. Do you know of any other freqs for grand lsle that i can listen to there calls via scanner or pager?
trainman111
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Grand Isle County is dispatched via alpha-numeric pagers so there is no way that you will ever be able to hear the actual dispatch. The only thing you can hear is the rest of the comms. betweent the FD's and Contact.
Fireground ops within Grand Isle County usually occur on 868.500 in simplex (non-repeater) mode. This means lower power, and within the immediate area of the scene. SOG's for the radio system only allow the use of the repeater during fireground operations when communications cannot be made in the simplex mode.
There are also two other simplex frequencies that they use, but not as often, and that is 866.0125 and 868.0125 MHz. These channels are usually referred to as Fireground 1 and Fireground 2, respectively.
Grand Isle Rescue uses a repeater on 868.4625 for their responders to communicate with each other, and not cause interference during fire calls. They also have the ability to switch to simplex mode when close enough.
As long as Contact Dispatch has the contract for dispatching the county's fire and ems agencies, they will always use alpha-numeric paging.
There are also two other simplex frequencies that they use, but not as often, and that is 866.0125 and 868.0125 MHz. These channels are usually referred to as Fireground 1 and Fireground 2, respectively.
Grand Isle Rescue uses a repeater on 868.4625 for their responders to communicate with each other, and not cause interference during fire calls. They also have the ability to switch to simplex mode when close enough.
As long as Contact Dispatch has the contract for dispatching the county's fire and ems agencies, they will always use alpha-numeric paging.
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