Firmware Update 2015-10-27: Replay Duration 'OFF'

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LakeErieLarry

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Thank you fxdscon for the reply . I downloaded 1.05 sentinel. I have not downloaded update yet..
Is it working properly yet ???
 

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Will this alter anything else on BCD536..other than the no record ???

If you mean will your data be affected, I've never seen any updates corrupt or change data. As always, back up your data first just in case.

It merely adds a way to set the new setting of OFF to the replay durations available.

Any remaining issues will likely be firmware update issues. Sentinel will very likely not change again.
 

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Thanks

If you mean will your data be affected, I've never seen any updates corrupt or change data. As always, back up your data first just in case.

It merely adds a way to set the new setting of OFF to the replay durations available.

Any remaining issues will likely be firmware update issues. Sentinel will very likely not change again.

I actually was not aware it was recording all the time..if I am reading the post correctly.. ????????
 

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Glad your all here

I think one of the reasons that the User Manuals have become so lacking in accuracy and detail is that most manufactures correctly assume that their users can turn to the internet for all the information they need. Most of you might recall that prior to the internet, if you bought a software package for your computer or a piece of electronic equipment, it came with a loose-leaf type book filled with information, fold-out diagrams, schematics, and a host of other information. It's no longer necessary to spend money on that type of instructional development when you can access practically anything you could possibly want right here on line. It's not a good thing or a bad thing, it's just the way we've evolved. Just like not many folks going to libraries these days when all the information you could ever want is available from home and right at your fingertips.

You all have been a great help to this newbie with the BCD536..Far more so than the manual
 

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I actually was not aware it was recording all the time..if I am reading the post correctly.. ????????

Yep. Until this firmware update, it did and could not be disabled. It was either recording for the RECORD function or for the REPLAY function. Either way, it was recording.
 

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EDIT PROFILE
Select the MISCELLANEOUS tab
In the REPLAY OPTION section select OFF for the duration.

Replay tab in Miscellaneous worked like a charm. Mine is now set to off, and when I update it should be set. OFF Thanks.
 

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To Clarify, I think in the past and now if REPLAY is ON it will be turned off automatically if you turn ON RECORD.

Therefore, (if I understand this correctly) if is now possible to have both REPLAY and RECORD OFF at the same time for the first time but you still cannot have both REPLAY and RECORD ON at the same.

Having both ON at the same time would not really make sense anyway.
 
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Um.. that's kind of confusing the issue. This might not help, but I'll try.

Replay is for instant playback of the most recent 30 to 240 seconds of audio.

Record is for capturing as much audio as you want, full-time, up to the size of your SD card. Playing back these recordings is possible, but does so 100 recordings at a time (one transmission from squelch break to close is one recording). These recordings are for more permanent and lengthy capture of transmissions, i.e. ones you want to keep by transferring to your computer, etc.

When you start a full-time recording session, anything in the replay buffer at the time is saved as part of the recording session. Once a recording session starts, replay recordings are not done, because that defeats the purpose of doing the full-time recording. You'd never want to do full-time recording and instant-replay recording at the same time. It would take up too much CPU and I/O time (obviously double what regular recording does).

In the past, as mentioned above, unless the full-time recording is on, replay was constantly recording for the instant playback feature. The change that's been made with this firmware update is to make it optional to turn replay recording completely off - turning the instant playback feature completely off. It has nothing to do with the full-time recording feature, which has not changed at all.
 

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Correct me if I am wrong, but if you don't have batteries in the 436, the recording function does not work at all????

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Correct me if I am wrong, but if you don't have batteries in the 436, the recording function does not work at all????

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That is my understanding--- all the Home Patrol series units, the HP-1, HP-2, 436 and 536 require batteries to record.
 

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To Clarify, I think in the past and now if REPLAY is ON it will be turned off automatically if you turn ON RECORD.

Therefore, (if I understand this correctly) if is now possible to have both REPLAY and RECORD OFF at the same time for the first time but you still cannot have both REPLAY and RECORD ON at the same.

Having both ON at the same time would not really make sense anyway.

Correct. The recording is used for one function or the other, but not both.

And correct that no batteries will disable the recording (for both RECORD and REPLAY). That is done in order to prevent corruption of the SD Card. Recording is also disabled if the cells are below the 'low voltage' threshold.

And 'M'... remove the 536 from your list. :D The 436, HP-1, and HP-2 require batteries to record.
 

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Any acknowledgement from Uniden that the firmware update did not produce the intended results??



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I think one of the reasons that the User Manuals have become so lacking in accuracy and detail is that most manufactures correctly assume that their users can turn to the internet for all the information they need. Most of you might recall that prior to the internet, if you bought a software package for your computer or a piece of electronic equipment, it came with a loose-leaf type book filled with information, fold-out diagrams, schematics, and a host of other information. It's no longer necessary to spend money on that type of instructional development when you can access practically anything you could possibly want right here on line. It's not a good thing or a bad thing, it's just the way we've evolved. Just like not many folks going to libraries these days when all the information you could ever want is available from home and right at your fingertips.

Well I mostly disagree with that. First, a good manual even if it is digital only, as in a PDF file, is extremely useful for both customers and manufacturer. I worked a lifetime for software companies and I can assure you it is very nice for CS to tell a caller to look at page X to see how to do what they want to do. It is also very important to have the company explain how to PROPERLY use their product, especially with uber complicated electronics, rather than assuming their customers will go to third party sources to get misinformation. And yes, much of what is posted is simply misinformation on how to operate the scanners.
 

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Well I mostly disagree with that. First, a good manual even if it is digital only, as in a PDF file, is extremely useful for both customers and manufacturer. I worked a lifetime for software companies and I can assure you it is very nice for CS to tell a caller to look at page X to see how to do what they want to do. It is also very important to have the company explain how to PROPERLY use their product, especially with uber complicated electronics, rather than assuming their customers will go to third party sources to get misinformation. And yes, much of what is posted is simply misinformation on how to operate the scanners.

My point was that this was neither a good nor bad development, it's just the way that passing along information, especially technical information, has evolved. Uniden, as with most companies, makes their User Manuals available online in PDF format. To their credit, they also include a printed copy of the manual along with the product.

The problem is that most companies do not want to make the expenditure of having a properly detailed manual written in the first place. For better or worse, they assume that most folks will turn to the internet to get information (or just as likely misinformation, as you pointed out).

At one time, I wrote instruction manuals about the operation of electronic equipment, computer programs, etc, and I found that folks are going to have plenty of questions even when they have the answers in the manual right in front of them, mostly because they're intimidated by 400 pages of technical information and they would rather just call in or come online and look for solutions.

I also, at one time, worked for a printing company that produced books and manuals, and I like the look and feel of a well-bound edition, and I love the smell of paper and ink.

Call it human nature, or attribute it to the amount of (mis)information that is available online, or that perhaps people are just getting lazy or dumbed down, that they didn't even get to your "Page X" before they called into technical support for help.

Let me get off my soapbox now, but I happen to agree that a well documented, printed manual is a great thing to have--- even better than a PDF version, because the printed version is almost always going to make it into the "reading room" for casual browsing and to pass the time.
 
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