I am not asking about the technical specs, and as to me comparing them it apparently can't be done, since there is 'zero comparison'. If that is true that has to mean 'anything' the 5700D can do, the others cannot do at all.So @marlbrook you need to find some local owner of a 5700D then and only then can you compare the radios all side by side all working from the same antenna ( NOT PLUGGED IN AT THE SAME TIME ) But you know what I mean . Specs mean very little
Not really, but briefly.... back in the days of the AOR3030 my very first HF receiver, I had the experience of knowing just how good a receiver could be, and it`s been a very, very long time since I got my hands on anything that comes close. Until now, I got first hand experience of the 5700D. Here I find myself enjoying the experience once again. something that did not, does not exist with my DV-1.Can someone please explain in 'detail' what exactly 'ZERO comparison' means in relation to the 5700D and all other AOR receivers?
If one tunes to 5.505 MHz USB on an AOR AR3000 and recieves an S9 signal and hears / understands the voice signal clearly, or on an AR-DV1 or other AOR Radio, then tunes a 5700D to the same signal what makes those other signals 'non/zero comparable' please? The only way those signals become literally 'non comparable' is if they suddenly cease to exist surely?
Does one then possibly realise that the signal that one was listening to on the other Receivers never existed at all, and one only 'thought' they were strong and intelligible.
Is the signal strength and audio quality of the 5700D so superior, that when switching back to one of the other Radios one can no longer understand the signals, or find them to have 'zero' acceptability and unintelligible?
I am really (honestly) pleased for 5700D owners who find the Radio what they wanted. Good for you.
I found my 'personal' ideal in having the AR-DV1 and Icom IC-R8600 joined up and working together, or individually. However rightly or wrongly I do see that as my 'very subjective and personal opinion', and do not feel the need to ever dream of re-enforcing my choice by using terms that denigrate the capabilities of other AOR receivers.
I do not own a 5700D, hence the questions. I never will own one for various reasons, not the least of which I am high if not top of AOR's blacklist, and the chances of me ever receiving the Radio back after a firmware upgrade would be very, very unlikely.
I suppose in some ways that may make me lucky, because if the 'zero comparison' statement is accurate, all the other AOR (and other make) Radios I use will keep functioning, and only if it is an 'illusion' I will 'think' they are receiving signals to my satisfaction, LOL.
I fully agree with your points about individual Radios, and that (up till now perhaps) none did everything perfectly.Must admit I have never been enamoured by any radio, to me they are all tools used to receive various signals and as long as they do that without too much faffing around I am happy
Older than that. Although RADIO intrigued me from an early age I did not begin my fascination with Radio until I was 10, when my Cousin became a Radio Amateur.Sounds @marlbrook that your only a few years younger than me as I retired 4 years ago but it was far straight forward buying gear in the early seventies things were alot straight forward in those days . The RAE was long hand and we had a CW test at broadstairs
Yes and me as this cannot continue like this as if it has the same problem again in a few months time we are going back to square one all over again but after spending all that money I feel that its only right I own a radio that works and not one that spends half the time in the work shop . But it would be nice to see the 5700D along side the DV1 , DV10 and the IC-R8600 and see how they all compare all on the same antenna .I really hope your 5700D issues are finally resolved soon, to your benefit. Posting the results of my experiments with the DV10 really did get me blacklisted by AOR, and I could never buy another AOR product again without risking almost certain retaliation if I gave them the opportunity. Anyway I have found my (almost) dream system with the IC-R8600 acting as the front end to my AR-DV1. Well unless I ever see a 5700D side by side with them, I can keep my illusions that they actually do work, lol. Till then I will continue in my unenlightened state and just 'think they do'.
Many probably now have no idea of the wonders that Tottenham Court Road, the Edgware Road, and the streets leading off them held regarding Radio equipment, new, second hand and Government Surplus. Once a year I would go up to London just to wander around those Shops, a long way from my home.As for the good old days of the early seventies it was army surplus like a 19 set all bought from GW Smiths down lisle street in the west end or Edgware road
Now that I have the 5700D, I think I'll relegate the DV-1 to portable operations and while traveling or vacationing. I need to spend a few more weeks with the 5700D to get comfortable with even the BASIC features of this rig. I can report during a VFO search of civilian air frequencies between 118.00 and 137.00 (AM) I had no birdies, intermod or hash. That in itself was pretty frigging awesome.Not really, but briefly.... back in the days of the AOR3030 my very first HF receiver, I had the experience of knowing just how good a receiver could be, and it`s been a very, very long time since I got my hands on anything that comes close. Until now, I got first hand experience of the 5700D. Here I find myself enjoying the experience once again. something that did not, does not exist with my DV-1.
You only know how good something really is when it hits the mark and you are fortunate enough to experience it first hand.
There are those who claim they never want to own one but are amongst the first to join an AOR 5700 facebook group. Who cares about that? They have their own reasons and best wishes to them.
Who was it that said the DV-1 looks like it was designed to be taken into the shower with you? `A shower radio?`
Something about the design of it? Obviously would advise against that!
It`s a good enough radio but compared to the AOR 5700D It doesn`t even come close. This radio takes me back to my very first embrace of radio communications, but I am still very much learning to drive it and wanting to take the driving seat every opportunity I get, unlike that experience the DV-1 offers.
So everything is working now, including VHF/UHF frequencies?Just to let you know that I received my 5700D back yesterday and its now fully working with sensitivity back to normal . But its still very confusing how they got the sensitivity back ? As in there words " That No Changes or adjustments other than the normal user controls " Should this be the case then why did the radio remain deaf after I and the local independent communications workshop did a factory reset method 1 + 2 this should have brought the radio back to factory default settings.However the radio still remains deaf on local VHF / UHF frequencies so again something does not add up unless the radio left the factory deaf ? In my view I think they have re-flashed the firmware . The truth of the matter is one day the radio was working and the next when I turned it on it was found to be deaf .When I say deaf DMR signals were so weak that you could no longer decode them ,The only control touched was the on + off switch and this is the second time that the radio has had this problem and like the first time they found no fault . So I have asked for there technician who worked on my radio, What " Normal user control settings he changed " As it makes No sense since doing a factory reset would have brought all settings back to default and it should have brought back the receiver back to full gain but after I carried out a signal check it remain the same " Deaf " So like I have said something does not add up .If you compare the same signal on 2m with a Icom 275H the signal on the 5700D is way down . So there you have it the radio is working again Lets hope it keeps working .