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O.K...this may or may not be the the right place to post this, but I'm ready for the abuse - as long as I get a couple of good recommendations out of it...

I've been interested in buying a scanner for about a year now...and I realize that the more money you spend, the more frequencies and flexibility the unit will have. I'm not completely committed to the hobby, but would simply like to have a decent unit around to listen to from time to time...

I would guess that my main interests in listening would encompass the typical....police, air, weather, GMRS, FRS, CB would be nice...ultimately as many frequencies as possible...

Now, when it comes to the cash...well, I'd like to keep this as close to $100...like I said, this is/might just be a passing interest....I've looked at the specs for the BC-92/72XLT's...as well as the PRO-83/92/94 models....I'm curious to hear what opinions you may have, as well as some recommendations for the idiot beginner....

Thanks in advance....


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also, recommendations on where to find the lowest price would be appreciated also!
 

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hmmm.

Where are you in the world? If you are in a location that only has conventional, non-trunked systems you might be able to get away with an inexpensive radio. If you live in a digital trunked system area you could buy a inexpensive radio but not hear a thing. So you would be thoroughly dissapointed from the start.

As far as weather, commercial air, GMRS, FRS and CB most (not all) inexpensive radios can pick that up. The BC92 is a good inexpensive conventional radio and has Close Call RF Capture meaning you can hear nearby stuff without programming the frequencies.
 

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jeastman said:
O.K...this may or may not be the the right place to post this, but I'm ready for the abuse - as long as I get a couple of good recommendations out of it...

I've been interested in buying a scanner for about a year now...and I realize that the more money you spend, the more frequencies and flexibility the unit will have. I'm not completely committed to the hobby, but would simply like to have a decent unit around to listen to from time to time...

I would guess that my main interests in listening would encompass the typical....police, air, weather, GMRS, FRS, CB would be nice...ultimately as many frequencies as possible...

Now, when it comes to the cash...well, I'd like to keep this as close to $100...like I said, this is/might just be a passing interest....I've looked at the specs for the BC-92/72XLT's...as well as the PRO-83/92/94 models....I'm curious to hear what opinions you may have, as well as some recommendations for the idiot beginner....

Thanks in advance....


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also, recommendations on where to find the lowest price would be appreciated also!

Your price range is a little low, but I would go for a used BC246T. It has many more features than those other units. In fact, about the only thing it doesn't have is digital audio decoding (you're looking at $500 if you wnt that). Since the 246 is about $200 new, you should be able to pick up a used one close to your target budget.

And welcome to the board!

Joe M.
 

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Thanks...I'm in Minnesota...and from what I've read, most of the state will be going to the digital trunked systems in the very near future, if they haven't already....

I wouldn't be to bothered if I couldn't hear police dispatch, though it would be nice...Digital scanning simply isn't in my budget...I'm looking just to dip my toes in for the time being....

I'm always browsing E-bay hoping to pounce on a good deal, I'm surpised that this hobby has such a following...my grandparents had an old Bearcat (I think) back in the 80's that I listened to when I'd visit, and I recently got into SWL last summer and enjoy it quite a bit (being the night owl that I am)....ultimately, I'd like to have all radio frequencies at my fingertips...but I figured I'd start small and work my way up...

I've been reading and learning on the radio reference website, I'm very impressed with how well put together it is, as well how much information is available....
 

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jeastman said:
Thanks...I'm in Minnesota...and from what I've read, most of the state will be going to the digital trunked systems in the very near future, if they haven't already....

Yep - already there and digital.

Joe M.
 

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Like Joe says, most of Minnestota's police agencies have already gone digital although there are still convetional frequencies for many of the rural areas and fire departments. Knowing that you won't be able to get digital in your price range, I think either the Pro-97 or the Uniden BC 296T would really be your best purchase, even though they are about $200. Both are basically similar radios and will do just about anything but digital. You could also get the Pro-95 at $150 but I think the Pro-97 is a better deal for $50 more. If you don't think you'll ever need to listen to a non-digital trunk system then the BC92 would be a fine radio but I suspect you'll regret not getting a trunk tracking radio in the long run.
 

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what county are you in? a good start to see whats around you would be to look in the database and see whats in your county; conventional, trunked, digital, etc....

also, look at the bands (freq range; 27-29 - CB, 108-137 - Aircraft, etc..)
as some handheld scanners might have 800mhz but no air or cb (mine for example)
 

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I'm in Dakota country...just south of the metro....

The more I think about it...I'm thinking I'll hold off until an affordable digital rig comes down the pike....or at least save a few pennies...I hate missing out, you know....

Thanks for all the recommendations and advice!
 

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Welcome to the website. Whatever you decide, you've found the best place for info. OK, now for my 2¢ worth. Everyone is going digital, so I would save your $$, and get a capable scanner. Then as always, the salesmen will push a "non-monitorable" system to your agencies. All we can do is to enjoy what we can, while we can.

Jerry
 

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Just submitted this the other day to the news section:

911 call center advances

Sometime in mid-2007, all 911 calls in Dakota County are expected to be routed through a single, new countywide communications center operated by dispatchers using state-of-the-art technology.

Gone, most likely, will be the six existing centers answering police, fire and medical calls with outdated technology.

Representatives of 11 suburbs, which account for 95 percent of Dakota County's 380,000 residents, announced the agreement to build an $11 million call center in the county. The new center will use the 800-megahertz digital system, replacing the old VHF analog technology.

"This plan represents better services for all of our citizens, at a lower cost, using today's technology," Dakota County Commissioner Nancy Schouweiler said.

From common events to a major disaster, emergency responders from different cities and agencies will be able to communicate with each other directly under the unified system, officials said. Responders also will be able to talk to regional and statewide users of the same system. Communication from inside buildings also will improve.

Eventually, all of Minnesota's 87 counties may be part of an integrated statewide 800-MHz system, said Russ Sinkler, a county-hired technical consultant with PSC Alliance in Rosemount. The state and several counties already have done so, Sinkler said, while other counties have signaled their intention to do so.

In Dakota County alone, Apple Valley Mayor Mary Hamann-Roland estimated operational-cost savings at $8.5 million in the first five years, compared with what the six existing call centers would have spent.

Morever, many officials consider it cost-prohibitive for their individual cities to undertake the major technology upgrade on their own.

"The goal is not only to save dollars. The goal is also to save lives," said Apple Valley Police Chief Scott Johnson. "This is going to make a difference many years into the future."

Under the new system, dispatchers can set up "talk groups" for conference calls at disaster scenes. Dispatchers will be able to better coordinate and calibrate responses to send "only what's needed'' to the scene, Johnson said.

His Eagan counterpart, Kent Therkelson, said that during disaster drills, "the first thing that typically fails" is speedy and effective multi-jurisdictional communication.

Dakota County officials talked about the cooperation, foresight and mutual trust that led to what they billed as a historic consolidation agreement. While all of that may be true, federal and state grants — including money earmarked for better homeland security — helped speed things along.

Federal and state grants Dakota County received will pay for roughly half of the $11 million in costs for constructing the new sub-system.

Dakota County will cover the rest of the capital costs, plus subsidize operating costs. Cities will be billed based on population and usage. They also will have to buy compatible handheld and mobile radios.

In contrast, Ramsey County and the city of St. Paul have been stalled for years in talks to combine their emergency communication centers. Just last month, Ramsey County reached an agreement with Maplewood to merge their dispatch operations.

The urgency for making improvements accelerated after the horror of Sept. 11, 2001, when various New York emergency services workers had difficulty communicating with each other.

The current six centers are operated by the Dakota County Sheriff's Department in Hastings and by the cities of West St. Paul, Apple Valley, Lakeville, Burnsville and Eagan.

The cities involved in the agreement are Apple Valley, Burnsville, Eagan, Farmington, Inver Grove Heights, Hastings, Lakeville, Mendota Heights, Rosemount, South St. Paul and West St. Paul.

Sinkler, the county-hired consultant, said the expectation is that none of the 69 full-time equivalent employees in the six centers will lose their jobs.

While the new center is projected to employ only 52 full-time equivalent employees, Lakeville City Administrator Steven C. Mielke said the goal is to reduce staff through attrition, not layoffs.

The center will be run by a separate governing authority that includes representatives of the 11 partner suburbs.

A building site has yet to be selected, but talk centers on 80 acres of county-owned land in geographically central Empire Township, south of Rosemount.

The new system will require construction of nine transmission towers. Two state-operated towers already exist in Dakota County and will improve the new system's performance and capacity, officials said.

The agreement must be approved by the Metropolitan Radio Board, which governs construction and operation of the 800-MHz public-safety radio system.

County officials are working on five other areas for greater cooperation. Those are joint purchasing of employee health insurance, combined operations and purchasing of information technology, a countywide law enforcement center, joint nonfelony prosecution services and sharing of public safety equipment.

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/11760120.htm



So It looks as if you will be ok until '07..
 
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