FL Slers P25 197 9254A

bravo14

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Feb 18, 2005
Messages
3,807
Location
#850Strong
I noticed 5 mints ago on Statewide Law Enforcement Radio System (P25) Trunking System, Statewide, Florida - Scanner Frequencies there is some info in the notes list. I’ll be in tally sometime today. If I don’t forget I’ll stop by and see what dsdplus shows. There is a few sites I can try on the way see if any site neighbors show up also. Before I left town over a week ago I didn’t see no fcc licenses for the 700. I was looking for each county I was going through to set up see what pops up.
 

bravo14

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Feb 18, 2005
Messages
3,807
Location
#850Strong
I was in Crawfordville (wakulla county) today and site 46 popped up. It is same setup as Fort White site........ Can anyone in Columbia County near Ft White confirm s46?
 

batdude

Active Member
Database Admin
Joined
Jul 29, 2002
Messages
560
Location
East Central, Florida
I was guessing it was labeled wrong. I was looking at both sites at site nac they were different.
even with the exact same freqs, the Site NAC and your location should 100% tell you which site is which

the fort white and crawfordville sites should be ~100 miles apart, so it would be very unlikely for you to hear both while you are mobile.

the only sites that I do not have 100% DSD+ data on are Big Pine (15) and Wewahitchka (76)
 

bravo14

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Feb 18, 2005
Messages
3,807
Location
#850Strong
even with the exact same freqs, the Site NAC and your location should 100% tell you which site is which

the fort white and crawfordville sites should be ~100 miles apart, so it would be very unlikely for you to hear both while you are mobile.

the only sites that I do not have 100% DSD+ data on are Big Pine (15) and Wewahitchka (76)
On Wewa 76 is correct I pick that one up on/off when bands are open or if I drive by that area.
 

Bote

Member
Joined
Dec 19, 2002
Messages
775
Location
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, U.S.A.
I still don't understand the significance of the sites being labeled "Air" as if they are strictly for speed enforcement from airplanes. If anything, they could re-use a couple conventional frequencies across the state if that's actually the purpose of these initial listings, but a trunked repeater system??

I remember the Good Old Days when I could hear the aircraft directing mobile units on 154.92 MHz simplex from miles away. TNX.
 

batdude

Active Member
Database Admin
Joined
Jul 29, 2002
Messages
560
Location
East Central, Florida
I still don't understand the significance of the sites being labeled "Air" as if they are strictly for speed enforcement from airplanes. If anything, they could re-use a couple conventional frequencies across the state if that's actually the purpose of these initial listings, but a trunked repeater system??

I remember the Good Old Days when I could hear the aircraft directing mobile units on 154.92 MHz simplex from miles away. TNX.
the site names on Radio Ref are the same as they are described in the SLERS P25 documents. (see attached)

i don't know why they are referred to as "air" either - but I'm sure there is a reasoning for it in the big master SLERS plan....


doug
 

Attachments

bravo14

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Feb 18, 2005
Messages
3,807
Location
#850Strong
Next time I go east again I'll have all this system in and see what pops up. I should have looked at shady grove when I was in that area over a week ago.
 

Bote

Member
Joined
Dec 19, 2002
Messages
775
Location
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, U.S.A.
the site names on Radio Ref are the same as they are described in the SLERS P25 documents. (see attached)
Well, I'm not a fan of this slavish dedication to match the hobbyist info exactly to the bureaucratic blah-blah. Railfans love to do that, too, but if there are ways to express the information that are better for hobbyists then by all means do it.

For example, I name the channels in my scanner and Unitrunker to suit my needs, regardless of what the users call them. More meaningful, especially with some questionable naming choices by the official decision-makers.
 

batdude

Active Member
Database Admin
Joined
Jul 29, 2002
Messages
560
Location
East Central, Florida
Well, I'm not a fan of this slavish dedication to match the hobbyist info exactly to the bureaucratic blah-blah. Railfans love to do that, too, but if there are ways to express the information that are better for hobbyists then by all means do it.

For example, I name the channels in my scanner and Unitrunker to suit my needs, regardless of what the users call them. More meaningful, especially with some questionable naming choices by the official decision-makers.
I respectfully disagree especially with the "slavish dedication" comment -- but while the term "air" may be non-relevant, the important part (city/geographics) of what is actually on the air vs. what is in that document seem to be a 100% match.

doug
 

bravo14

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Feb 18, 2005
Messages
3,807
Location
#850Strong

batdude

Active Member
Database Admin
Joined
Jul 29, 2002
Messages
560
Location
East Central, Florida
anything with LTE in the descriptor is a death blow to listening to PS radio traffic - perhaps the hobbyist sector will be able to provide something that works, but with the laws in place regarding scanners and cell phone freqs... Uniden and the others are a non-starter on anything LTE.

at this point I don't really know what Florida is going to do re: SLERS. The system loading that they expected never materialized, many sites carry ZERO local traffic; and FHP seems to be the biggest day-to-day PTT user.

Harris (before L3Harris) pulled an exceptional feat when they got the initial SLERS contract and how "ownership" of the towers would be handled.... effectively they became a sole-source supplier to Florida. Very smart. Harris owns the towers until 2051. (yes, 30 more years)

SLERS (EDACS) is now nearly obsolete, is not interoperable at all - and it wasn't even used to 5% of its potential. Look, ONE WHOLE PAGE of users on a what? 50? 100? million $ radio system? Awesome use of Tax Money >> https://www.dms.myflorida.com/content/download/149444/996614/2020_SLERS_Partner_List.pdf

(btw, the same article I used for data above noted that SLERS has an ANNUAL budget of $18 million / year)


then there is this GEM of an article from October:



d
 

bravo14

Member
Premium Subscriber
Joined
Feb 18, 2005
Messages
3,807
Location
#850Strong
anything with LTE in the descriptor is a death blow to listening to PS radio traffic - perhaps the hobbyist sector will be able to provide something that works, but with the laws in place regarding scanners and cell phone freqs... Uniden and the others are a non-starter on anything LTE.

at this point I don't really know what Florida is going to do re: SLERS. The system loading that they expected never materialized, many sites carry ZERO local traffic; and FHP seems to be the biggest day-to-day PTT user.

Harris (before L3Harris) pulled an exceptional feat when they got the initial SLERS contract and how "ownership" of the towers would be handled.... effectively they became a sole-source supplier to Florida. Very smart. Harris owns the towers until 2051. (yes, 30 more years)

SLERS (EDACS) is now nearly obsolete, is not interoperable at all - and it wasn't even used to 5% of its potential. Look, ONE WHOLE PAGE of users on a what? 50? 100? million $ radio system? Awesome use of Tax Money >> https://www.dms.myflorida.com/content/download/149444/996614/2020_SLERS_Partner_List.pdf

(btw, the same article I used for data above noted that SLERS has an ANNUAL budget of $18 million / year)


then there is this GEM of an article from October:



d
On the list FSDB Deaf & Blind School only schools buses on it. The PD was on it but had issues with the system years ago. They went to a p25 Conv.
 
Top