FleetNet Zone 2 switchover to LMRN

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Based on what some contacts told me, Zone 2 will not be until 2025. Some issues came up during testing and at least 2 CACCs were not happy with the results.
I like the sound of that. Cornwall & Vankleek Hill have been blaring out test tones for a couple of months now.
 

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Pontypool is technically located in Zone 2, but a Zone 1 site. I assume it's there to extend coverage east for what was Whitby units, and Durham EMS.
I would say this is correct - it basically carried only those two things. Coverage was spotty along the south in many spots past Courtice, but wasn't exactly helped by the Pontypool tower often. Used to hear EMS complain about it often and come through as mostly static. It's pretty thick foresting northbound in a lot of spots too.
 

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EMS have been told to report dead zones. Spoke with 2 EMS folks from Oxford and they say the coverage is brutal. They rely on their cell phones a lot of the time. They say nothing seems to be done about the dead zones and they are in towns like Norwich
 

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Pontypool is technically located in Zone 2, but a Zone 1 site. I assume it's there to extend coverage east for what was Whitby units, and Durham EMS.
Geographically in Kawartha Lakes, and in the original OPP System, it was part of Peterborough Comm Centre.
When FleetNet was implemented, Pontypool was moved into Zone 1.

That shift screwed up coverage in the southern part of Kawartha Lakes and Peterborough County in Zone 2.
Fenelon Falls and Buckhorn sites would not cover the Southern area, so the new Peterborough site was put on the Bell Tower at the north edge of Peterborough.

The new single zone in Southern Ontario will fix coverage problems in the Zone 1 / Zone 2 boundary.
 

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I suspect this is exactly why Washago was selected as an LMRN site. Right on the border of an area that was previously covered by Zone 1 and Zone 2 in the transition.
 

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I suspect this is exactly why Washago was selected as an LMRN site. Right on the border of an area that was previously covered by Zone 1 and Zone 2 in the transition.

I'm convinced that the many new LMRN sites on Bell towers are aimed at fixing Bell's corporate finance/profit issues, and may not be aimed at better coverage, LOL. Fenelon Falls in Zone 1 works reasonably well east of Orillia.
 

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This map shows a "Minden" site in Zone 2. I don't see it in the RR database for Fleetnet. Or is that for the new system?
 

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Ottawa CACC is telling all crews to switch over to the city's P25 radio system for the whole night. Not sure what this is about.
As of 8PM. all Ottawa medic units are on the city's P25 system, dispatchers were saying it was gonna last the whole night.
 

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This map shows a "Minden" site in Zone 2. I don't see it in the RR database for Fleetnet. Or is that for the new system?
Minden is a new site for LMRN, but I believe MOH have a PCOM base station there now to solve coverage problems.
 

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Ottawa CACC is telling all crews to switch over to the city's P25 radio system for the whole night. Not sure what this is about.
As of 8PM. all Ottawa medic units are on the city's P25 system, dispatchers were saying it was gonna last the whole night.

It sounds like the Ottawa Paramedic Portable Radios will be switched over to the Ottawa P25 800 MHz trunking system, using the Medic 1 Talk Group for the night. There was no further transmission on FleetNet Ottawa CACC post 7:54pm tonight.
That suggests the VHF radio and VRS in the ambulances will not be used tonight. Ottawa likely have really good 800 MHz P25 portable coverage for the Police and Fire Service.
 

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It sounds like the Ottawa Paramedic Portable Radios will be switched over to the Ottawa P25 800 MHz trunking system, using the Medic 1 Talk Group for the night. There was no further transmission on FleetNet Ottawa CACC post 7:54pm tonight.
That suggests the VHF radio and VRS in the ambulances will not be used tonight. Ottawa likely have really good 800 MHz P25 portable coverage for the Police and Fire Service.
They are back up using the FleetNet radios as of 4AM this morning.
 

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EMS have been told to report dead zones. Spoke with 2 EMS folks from Oxford and they say the coverage is brutal. They rely on their cell phones a lot of the time. They say nothing seems to be done about the dead zones and they are in towns like Norwich
IMO this is going to be due to the lower TX power of the LMRN sites. No doubt Bell will be tweaking the sites to fix some of these issues now that Zone 1 is fully migrated and the FleetNet transmitters are off the air now.
 

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I just noticed yesterday that a control channel on frequency 142.2150 is coming in loud and clear in Kingston for the new system.
 
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