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Florida Scanner Law: I found this to be the most current law regarding scanners in Florida. Does this mean that it is illegal to be using a scanner at all in the state?

843.16 Unlawful to install radio equipment using assigned frequency of state or law enforcement officers; definitions; exceptions; penalties.--

(1) No person, firm, or corporation shall install in any motor vehicle or business establishment, except an emergency vehicle or crime watch vehicle as herein defined or a place established by municipal, county, state, or federal authority for governmental purposes, any frequency modulation radio receiving equipment so adjusted or tuned as to receive messages or signals on frequencies assigned by the Federal Communications Commission to police or law enforcement officers of any city or county of the state or to the state or any of its agencies. Provided, nothing herein shall be construed to affect any radio station licensed by the Federal Communications System or to affect any recognized newspaper or news publication engaged in covering the news on a full-time basis or any alarm system contractor certified pursuant to part II of chapter 489, operating a central monitoring system.
 

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I don't care

I have always had my scanner in florida. Used it while driving to fla for a cb radio monitoring, while driving through kentucky, and will to this day have a scanner no matter what the law is. Who cares of a stinkin law.
 

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There is a bit more to the statute....see below.

Chapter 843 - Obstructing Justice
843.16 Unlawful to install radio equipment using assigned frequency
of State or law enforcement officers; definitions; exceptions;
penalties.--

(1) No person, firm, or corporation shall install in any motor vehicle
or business establishment, except an emergency vehicle or crime
watch vehicle as herein defined or a place established by
municipal, county, state, or federal authority for governmental
purposes, any frequency modulation radio receiving equipment so
adjusted or tuned as to receive messages or signals on frequencies
assigned by the Federal Communications Commission to police or law
enforcement officers of any city or county of the state or to the
state or any of its agencies. Provided, nothing herein shall be
construed to affect any radio station licensed by the Federal
Communications System or to affect any recognized newspaper or
news publication engaged in covering the news on a full-time basis
or any alarm system contractor certified pursuant to Part II of
Chapter 489, Operating a Central Monitoring System.

(2) As used in this section, the term:

(a) "Emergency vehicle" shall specifically mean:

1. Any motor vehicle used by any law enforcement officer or
employee of any city, any county, the state, the Federal
Bureau of Investigation, or the Armed Forces of the United
States while on official business;

2. Any fire department vehicle of any city or county of the
state or any state fire department vehicle;

3. Any motor vehicle designated as an emergency vehicle by
the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles when said
vehicle is to be assigned the use of frequencies assigned to
the state;

4. Any motor vehicle designated as an emergency vehicle by
the Sheriff of any county in the state when said vehicle is
to be assigned the use of frequencies assigned to the said
county;

5. Any motor vehicle designated as an emergency vehicle by
the Chief of Police of any city in the state when said
vehicle is to be assigned the use of frequencies assigned to
the said city.

(b) "Crime watch vehicle" means any motor vehicle used by any
person participating in a citizen crime watch or neighborhood
watch program when such program and use are approved in
writing by the appropriate Sheriff or Chief of Police where
the vehicle will be used and the vehicle is assigned the use
of frequencies assigned to the county or city. Such approval
shall be renewed annually.

(3) This section shall not apply to any holder of a valid amateur
radio operator or station license issued by the Federal
Communications Commission or to any recognized newspaper or news
publication engaged in covering the news on a full-time basis or
any alarm system contractor certified pursuant to Part II of
Chapter 489, Operating a Central Monitoring System.

(4) Any person, firm, or corporation violating any of the provisions
of this section shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor of the
second degree, punishable as provided in § 775.082 or § 775.083.

History.--§§ 1-4, ch. 26886, 1951; §§ 24, 35, ch. 69-106; § 1049, ch.
71-136; § 1, ch. 86-55; § 1, ch. 90-62.
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Florida Attorney General's Opinion Letter
From: AGO 89-44

Question:
Does the installation and operation of police band radio monitors by persons other than radio or television stations violate the provisions of s. 843.16, F.S.?

Answer:
In sum, I am of the opinion that:

The installation of a police band radio monitor in a business establishment or motor vehicle, except in emergency or crime watch vehicles or in a place established by federal, state, county or municipal government for governmental purposes, by a person other than a radio or television station or a holder of a valid amateur radio operator or station license issued by the Federal Communications Commission, violates s. 843.16, F.S.

It is assumed for purposes of this inquiry that a police band radio monitor is frequency modulation radio receiving equipment adjusted or tuned to receive messages or signals on frequencies assigned by the Federal Communications Commission to state or local law enforcement agencies.

Section 843.16(1), F.S., provides:

No person, firm, or corporation shall install in any motor vehicle or business establishment, except an emergency vehicle or crime watch vehicle as herein defined or a place established by municipal, county, state, or federal authority for governmental purposes, any frequency modulation radio receiving equipment so adjusted or tuned as to receive messages or signals on frequencies assigned by the Federal Communications Commission to police or law enforcement officers of any city or county of the state or to the state or any of its agencies. Provided, nothing herein shall be construed to affect any radio station licensed by the Federal Communications System.

Any person, firm or corporation violating the provisions of s. 843.16, F.S., is guilty of a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in ss. 775.082 or 775.083, F.S. (FN1)

The statute thus prohibits the installation of radio equipment using the assigned frequencies of state and local law enforcement officers in business establishments or motor vehicles. The term "installation" is not defined in the statute. However, this office has stated that the term contemplates that the unit be connected to a power source and have need of an external antenna capable of rendering the unit functional. Thus, this office concluded that the elements of "installation," for purposes of s. 843.16, F.S., would be present when:

The radio unit is in some way connected to and dependent upon the motor vehicle's electrical power system; and the radio unit is connected to an independent and external antenna capable of receiving broadcasts of law enforcement agencies.

As to the installation of such equipment in a business establishment, the above-mentioned requirements would likewise apply except that the connection to a power source could be accomplished merely by plugging the unit into an electrical wall outlet. (FN2)

The statute recognizes several exceptions. Emergency vehicles (FN3) and crime watch vehicles (FN4) are expressly excluded from the statute. (FN5) Places established by the state, county, municipal or federal government for governmental purposes are also exempted. (FN6)

Section 843.16, F.S., provides that nothing contained therein shall be construed to affect any radio station licensed by the Federal Communications System. (FN7) This office has stated that this exemption applies to television stations as well as to radio stations. (FN8) In addition, holders of valid amateur radio operator or station licenses issued by the Federal Communications Commission are expressly exempted from the terms of the statute. (FN9)

Accordingly, I am of the opinion that if such radio equipment is installed in a nonemergency or noncrime watch motor vehicle or in a business establishment which is not a place established by municipal, county, state or federal authorities for governmental purposes, the installation by a person other than a radio or television station or holder of a valid amateur radio operator or station license issued by the Federal Communications Commission, violates s. 843.16, F.S.

Sincerely,

Robert A. Butterworth Attorney General
 

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this is not the latest version of the law. Effective July 1, 2005 it is unlawful to transport a scanner in a vehicle. There is another thread on it and the latest law is p;osted there.
 

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n4voxgill said:
this is not the latest version of the law. Effective July 1, 2005 it is unlawful to transport a scanner in a vehicle. There is another thread on it and the latest law is p;osted there.
I missed the thread when it was posted, and I hadn't heard the news. Thanks for the update!
 

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OOOPS, she threw something new in the pot. The law prohibits use in a business. That was included to keep wrecker companies from chasing calls trying to steal business.
 

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But doesn't wrecking crews have contracts with the coppers.
 

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some do and some don't, but back years ago wreckers would try to beat the police to the scene and talk the people involved into letting them tow their cars.
 

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LE agencies typicially utilize a rotation schedule for wreckers. Once you get a tow your put to the back of the list and it rotates around. With the amount of crashes in Florida I'm sure it comes around pretty quick if there in a urban area.
 

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what does this mean?.................................. any frequency modulation radio receiving equipment so adjusted or tuned as to receive messages or signals on frequencies assigned by the Federal Communications Commission to police or law enforcement officers of any city or county of the state or to the state or any of its agencies." If the car was not own and the scanner was not programmed then how could a person be guilty when the agencies are all digital now?
 

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Who say's they are all digital??? Almost all of S Fla is analog except for 4 or 5 cities.
 

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Either way if the scanner was off how can a person be arrested for having a nice car black crown vic with antennas that are for the scanner and the CB and the car is registed in another state and the car is register to a security company . I checked in to this story, I called the reporter that wrote the story...The guy was walking around the lake..as a matter of fact the blue lights were on his visor he was looking for some replacement lens so he can use on his compancy security vehicle. And get this the lights were not on as well....go figure that one?
 

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The Federal Preemption only means that it is legal for a ham to operate a radio that has the capabilities to receive out of bands but gives no legal authority for that piece of equipment to be actually programmed to receive such transmissions.

Local jurisdictions can still enact laws that forbid the reception of non-amateur transmisions by anyone, including hams.
 

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The Federal Preemption only means that it is legal for a ham to operate a radio that has the capabilities to receive out of bands but gives no legal authority for that piece of equipment to be actually programmed to receive such transmissions.

Local jurisdictions can still enact laws that forbid the reception of non-amateur transmisions by anyone, including hams.

How do local jurisdictions get around the "it shall not be unlawful" clause in federal law in the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986 (ECPA'86) where it specifically says that it SHALL NOT be unlawful to monitor radio transmissions made by police and other emergency services?

I'm of the opinion that "programming" a piece of ham equipment is an act pertaining to the operation of a ham's station, and is under the FCC's jurisdiction. I say it's totally outside the state's jurisdiction, IMHO, but that doesn't stop states from enacting such laws.

The "nothing herein shall be construed to affect any radio station licensed by the Federal Communications System." clause in Florida's law would allow for more than just licensed hams to be exempt even though hams are specifically exempted. "...any radio station licensed by..." would mean that a holder of a valid GMRS license would technically qualify since it counts as a radio station licensed by the FCC. Towtruck operators who aren't hams would also qualify if their business is FCC-licensed for one or more business band freqs. Use in a business location would be allowed if that business has an FCC license.

Just my $0.02 FWIW. Don't listen to anything I wouldn't listen to. <wink>
 
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How do local jurisdictions get around the "it shall not be unlawful" clause in federal law in the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986 (ECPA'86) where it specifically says that it SHALL NOT be unlawful to monitor radio transmissions made by police and other emergency services?

Because no one ever takes it far enough up through the court system.
 

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Pesonal Gain and Scanners

The primary purpose of the State Law is to circumvent some who would use a scanner in a manner as to benefit from the information obtained from police/fire frequencies.

One example is indeed that of the old "ambulance chaser", which would show up on a accident scene giving out business cards to the victims.

The example which is most concerning, is when one uses a police scanner to intercept calls, when one is commiting crimes in a neighborhood and uses the scanner to know when the police are being dispatched. for 14 bucks, one can take a simple test and get an amatuer radio license, which would exempt you from this law. Bad guys are stupid and don't take tests for licenses. That is why they commit crimes and laws like this help in getting them off the street before they clean your house out of all your scanner equipment!!

I work as a Law Enforcement officer and personally don't look at an individual merely by their having a scanner, but what they intend to gain personally from the information being obtained from it.
 
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