Follow Up to 'HF Antenna In Apartment'

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lcmontana

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Ive tried a couple designs and configurations described, and none of them seem to clear up the signal Im trying to bring at 830kHz. It is a audible at night, and Im trying to only clear it up during the nighttime hours. I dont believe I can get the signal during the daytime.

Any other suggestions? I could string the copper wire from the house up the hill at a slight angle, but a 583' tower isnt exactly realisitc, as you might guess.

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Well there is a clear channel on 830 in the AM Broadcast band that
belongs to WCCO in Minneapolis.
Another thing is AM broadcast from Europe, but there spacing is 9 kHZ
so it's unlikely to hit 830 evenly. Most likely 828 kHz.

I'm also curious what there is to listen to at that freq.
 

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Thats was my thought, I listen to WCCO 830 here everyday, but I live in the Mpls area. I forget what type of power they run but I now it is a power house.
 

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Thats the one. I dont know what the power is, but I know its boosted overnight and during Twins games. Just trying to get a more reliable signal.

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If you could make a dipole it would most certainly help, if you could get it outside that would help even more. Remember if you make a dipole that they are directional. If you hang it north-south it will receive better to the east and west.

Good Luck

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Hi all,

First of all, these days there is hardly a clear channel left on the standard AM broadcast band. WCCO however just might be one but I doubt it. Anyway, those stations usually broadcast an omnidirectional 50KW signal day/night, the legal limit. There is no such thing as "boosting power" anymore since CONELRAD became obsolete. Back then selected stations could transmit with more than 50KW under certain conditions using transmitters left over from the days before the limit was established.

As for the antenna, BCB DXers prefer a loop, a very antique sort of affair but highly effective for nulling out unwanted signals. Construction details are a bit too much to post here, you can get them in publications from the 20s and 30s, mostly from the library. Some DXers just may have plans lying around, Google some forums and ask. Alternately you may experiment with a ferrite loopstick and 365pF variable capacitor found in an old transistor radio. You may get lucky and have an old table radio from the 50s kicking around, the loop was wound on the back cover usually, the capacitor mounted on the chassis. Use the antenna section, it's bigger than the oscillator section. Then if it works, use the whole radio. (;->)

With a bit of practice you can position the loop to null or peak a signal so choose a compromise that gives the best reception. My interest started by listening to distant stations at night on an old table radio, then I found a car radio to have the hottest front end of anything around. Naturally, look what it uses as an antenna. Sorry guys, don't bother looking in the junk yard anymore, 50s and 60s cars went to the smelter ages ago and today's radios suk especially since AM is just an afterthought. Not so in Europe, there MW and LW broadcasters abound and the radios are superb so if you're interested have a friend ship one over from, say, Germany.
 
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