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Because it's the NFL Season. And Yes, you can Monitor, you can not decode the audio, but you can Monitor.

Many of the Frequencies can be interfered with or cause Local Interference.

Knowing the Frequencies and what team is in-town is Helpfull to many Scannists and Radio Shops for Interference work.

SAR2401 said:
Why is every old thread on the NFL being bought up again? You cannot monitor the coach to player communications because they are encrypted. Nothing has changed since the last time all this was posted.
 

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ecps92 said:
Because it's the NFL Season. And Yes, you can Monitor, you can not decode the audio, but you can Monitor.

Many of the Frequencies can be interfered with or cause Local Interference.

Knowing the Frequencies and what team is in-town is Helpfull to many Scannists and Radio Shops for Interference work.

Huh? You're saying that these low power systems can cause local interference? Give me a case example. Or are you saying you want to know the frequecnies so you or someone else can interfere with the signals? Knowing that team "X" uses 464.265 with a DCS of 123 is the only information you can get since you can't monitor any voice due to encryption. Seems very doubtful that any radio shop not directly involved in legally supplying team radio equipment would care about this information and even fewer "scannists".
 

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Your entitled to your opinion. Plenty of External equipment is used in/around the Stadiums on/off the property as well.

My example goes back to our Ole QB named Bledsoe. He had interference on his QB Radio [seems this was before they may have added a secondary repeater] until Half Time Only. Well, the NFL and the usual B.S. said the radios were 600, 700, 800, 900 pick a Number. Turns out, the LEGALLY Licensed Parking Lot Attendant channel was 12.5 Khz from Bledsoes Repeater channel. OPPS ! 50 Watts vs maybe 2-5 Watts? Hmmm.

Situation resolved by moving the Parking Lot channel.

Here we go Mr. Negative again. Anyone who deliberately interferes with Radio Communications should be Drawn and Quartered at the 50 yrd Line and No, it will
not be a Pay Per View. SAR2401 - knock off the negativity.


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Huh? You're saying that these low power systems can cause local interference? Give me a case example. Or are you saying you want to know the frequecnies so you or someone else can interfere with the signals? Knowing that team "X" uses 464.265 with a DCS of 123 is the only information you can get since you can't monitor any voice due to encryption. Seems very doubtful that any radio shop not directly involved in legally supplying team radio equipment would care about this information and even fewer "scannists".
 

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SAR2401 wrote:
"Why is every old thread on the NFL being bought up again?"

Probably because of the latest scandal between the Patriots (cheaters) and the Jets:

"Sources: Goodell determines Pats broke rules by taping Jets' signals"
By Chris Mortensen

<snip>"The league also was reviewing a possible violation into the number of radio frequencies the Patriots were using during Sunday's game, sources said. The team did not have a satisfactory explanation when asked about possible irregularities in its communication setup during the game." <snip>

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3014677
 

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First, my attitude is my attitude. If you don't like it, just continue to the next post. Second, what role did you, Bill, play in either discovering or fixing this supposed interference? That's why football teams and the NFL have professional radio shops working for them. Third, how is operating legally on a frequency causing illegal interference? If one radio is 12.5 KHz off the frequency of another radio, it's a problem of the other radio not being enginnered with sufficient adjacent channel rejection. I don't think a parking lot attendant operating on a legal radio fits the description of someone who "deliberately interferes with Radio Communications". Lastly, this interest in encypted frequencies makes me suspicious that the information might be used for exactly what is being alleged against the Patriots. Very few casual scanner users care what frequency anyone operates on if they can not be monitored but people with other motives are very interested in this information.

If you don't care to answer my questions, you may now resume your adhominen attacks.
 

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ShadowFire said:
GEEZ SAR... what crawled up YOUR butt????????
Cool it with the attitude.
Pretty ironic for a guy with a sig line that reads "turn it up, this is my attitude - TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT!". I guess that only goes one way, huh?
 

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QB Radios.

I was one of the persons asked to assist in the search for the interference.

As for on-site Techs' from the NFL ? Your kidding right?

Suspicious minds...ahh....next my scanner will be confiscated because I listen to the Secret Service. Damn, no SPAM filter to block folks, well back to the ole DELETE key.

SAR2401 said:
First, my attitude is my attitude. If you don't like it, just continue to the next post. Second, what role did you, Bill, play in either discovering or fixing this supposed interference? That's why football teams and the NFL have professional radio shops working for them. Third, how is operating legally on a frequency causing illegal interference? If one radio is 12.5 KHz off the frequency of another radio, it's a problem of the other radio not being enginnered with sufficient adjacent channel rejection. I don't think a parking lot attendant operating on a legal radio fits the description of someone who "deliberately interferes with Radio Communications". Lastly, this interest in encypted frequencies makes me suspicious that the information might be used for exactly what is being alleged against the Patriots. Very few casual scanner users care what frequency anyone operates on if they can not be monitored but people with other motives are very interested in this information.

If you don't care to answer my questions, you may now resume your adhominen attacks.
 

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You may not be able to decipher what a "75 left, wide 35, y cross" is but I've found that most of the conversation is in plain English. You hear discussions similar to "the safety freezes up every time the halfback pulls right, so run the wide receiver on post left, faking a run right", or "the linebacker is being held on every pass play by the left tackle, let the ref know, we can't go on all night like this" and the like. Quite often the press box observers are not familiar enough with the specific plays to name them as the offensive coaches are down on the field. I've attended games where I have an earplug on and began telling those with me what the next play will look like, then had others around me ask if I could please speak up so they could hear me also.

For high school games I've found just about everything being used, not only business frequencies, but sometimes a school maintenance frequency that is licensed for wide itinerant use. Sometimes it isn't licensed. It is hard to find the frequencies most of the time because they often speak very briefly. I've even gone to college games in the San Francisco Bay area and picked up more than one game at a time and could not figure out which frequency went to what game for quite some time.

One thing for sure, it is getting more and more difficult to pick up these devices due to the different technologies being employed. I assume that there was eavesdropping by opposing teams.
 

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If you can believe the geocities link someone posted above, not everything is encrypted. I think there are some models of AOR scanners that have voice inversion de-scrambling capability built in. There have been battery powered voice inversion de-scramblers for handheld use available for purchase from time to time, even after the Electronic Communications Privacy Act of 1986 and its subsequent amendments. There is some computer software that will do the same, although carrying a laptop, especially in a stadium, sounds pretty cumbersome to me.

EDIT and P.S. The proper use of Latin would be ad hominen, although there is a lot of common useage with it as one word. It is defined as trying to discredit an argument by attacking the personal characteristics of the person presenting an argument. It would seem as though this is a hobby, an advocation, something to have fun with, and that personalization of issues does not have a place here. More concisely, loosen up!
 
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ecps92 said:
I was one of the persons asked to assist in the search for the interference.

Asked by whom? Do you do professional radio intallations for the Patriots? And how hard is it to check the FCC database for adjacent channel users that might be a problem? You didn't answer my question about how this was "illegal" radio interference.

As for on-site Techs' from the NFL ? Your kidding right?

Did I ever write this? I wrote that the teams and the MFL have professional radio companies that they consult with. I doubt they go out and ask ham radio operators to help them solve problems.

Suspicious minds...ahh....next my scanner will be confiscated because I listen to the Secret Service. Damn, no SPAM filter to block folks, well back to the ole DELETE key.

Supicious minds indeed. When you do things that look suspicious, there's a reasonable expectation that you will be viewed suspiciously.
 

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The ongoing Comedy by SAR2401

And I have to answer to you? about my Personal and Professional Contacts?


It's pretty easy to check adjacent channels. Back when the NFL started the QB Radio project it wasn't used much. Now they issue [Percon] software, Scanners and a Laptop to the On-Scene Game Day Coordinators

Yup, when you do suspicious things you get looked at. And, if your not doing anything wrong there is not need to panic. Now back to Scanning and all aspects.

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Asked by whom? Do you do professional radio intallations for the Patriots? And how hard is it to check the FCC database for adjacent channel users that might be a problem? You didn't answer my question about how this was "illegal" radio interference.



Did I ever write this? I wrote that the teams and the MFL have professional radio companies that they consult with. I doubt they go out and ask ham radio operators to help them solve problems.



Supicious minds indeed. When you do things that look suspicious, there's a reasonable expectation that you will be viewed suspiciously.
 

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Lindsay,
I wouldn't normally do this but it appears I can neither PM nor e-mail you. I suggest you review the messages in this thread again. If you can find one instance that I personally attacked another poster, I will apologize. Several posters personally attacked me for asking what I believe to be reasonable questions. I have no idea why you picked me out as the one that was asked to "cool it". I also don't appreciate being called a jerk when I don't think I did anything do deserve it. If you look at the post counts of the two posters that attacked me and then look at my post count, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have lasted this long if I was a jerk. Even if you think I am a jerk, dealing with the issue by PM or e-mail is the gentlemanly way to handle this.
 

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Pre Season is upon us, anyone monitoring the Teams?

Seems we now have Defense Radios... [Probably same frequency, different DCS Tone, as I noticed two different DCS tones on Fridays Game, for both Phili and New England]

http://news.bostonherald.com/sports...bg?articleid=1114806&srvc=home&position=rated

FOXBORO - For the first time during the preseason, the Patriots employed the newly allowed head-set communication system for the defense in Friday night&#8217;s loss to the Eagles.

This page lists many of the quarterback freqs.
 

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Though I haven't been to a high school football game in years. I recall seeing the high schools in Newport News have several talk groups assigned as part of the city's trunked system. As I recall they had a visitors and home group.

But as others have said, it could be nearly anything.
 

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wow, i didnt know that the NFL and all had those fancy spread spectrum and encrypted and all that fancy gear. well, I guess it should be like that so people dont listen in and then bet on certain teams and cheat
 
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