For those who insist Paul can't/won't say anything...

[PhillyPhoto]

So, was working on the HP-2 a close second in regards to priority?

Of course, gotta get it out for that busy holiday shopping season! Especially when they can charge $50 for the "extreme" features this time around.

 

[mitbr]

Paul Opitz

So if the Wifi app is stalled give us the analyze feature this would make the 436 users happy and at least let the buyers of the x36 scanners know that Uniden are true to there name.

So to repeat UNIDEN give us the analyze feature since the wifi feature is stalled.

Please give us something!!! Paul Opitz.

 

[pepsima1]

Of course, gotta get it out for that busy holiday shopping season! Especially when they can charge $50 for the "extreme" features this time around.

This response from Upman is still very cryptic like some of the talkgroups that LE communicates on.

Also, if you start reading the last paragraph there are run on sentences which his legal team should of fixed his grammar first before posted an update from corporate.

Yup Christmas is somewhere right around the corner and of course Whistler is going to release information on their WS-1095 so Uniden needed to pump out their Turd Patrol II.

But I have to tread lightly here because I will get more infraction points. I did not know you can get infraction points when you are in the rant and rave section of the taverns. HAHA. Awesome

 

[VE3RADIO]

Give Uniden a little slack. You guys want new scanners in the future don't you?

A little slack would be 6 months.. its been double that.

 

[KF7IJZ]

Ignoring emotions...

The firmware issue is an issue altogether separate of the wifi/Siren issue. Focus on that first, as it affects two product lines and would earn an insane amount of goodwill from users. You guys went above and beyond for the speaker amp issue. Do the same here.

From an engineering perspective, if you have so much trouble with the wifi dongle, go with a new dongle. I have to imagine that there are plenty of low cost options available from people who will work with you (I often wonder if this has to do with whether the bundled dongle is class compliant), and the cost of replacing them in the field is probably worth stopping the vitriol.

 

[4436time]

Unless analyze works with Siren and they're still ironing out issues, in which case they might be more inclined to release it as a package deal on the 536 and then on the 436, or both at the same time....?

 

[EDCScanner]

I appreciate the update and regardless what he says the speculations and feedback will still be negative. I am sure that is to be expect but, it is at least an effort which is more than what we have been given and is all some of us have been asking for. You're not going to be able to stop people from reading between the lines.

For me, based on what we know now. It is kind of what I have be saying all along. This almost sounds like it was pushed to production way prematurely before there was a working protocol to even produce. It should have never been pushed to production until these main advertised features were working. Keep in mind I am saying BEFORE production. I know it is costly to stop post production. It is ludicrous to say I have an idea and I am going to give myself a year to complete from concept to production and if it isn't fully working then oh well, I will release it anyways and figure it out along the way. Which is what some of the trolls are suggesting. No one puts a timeline on R&D and if you do that is just bad business. Sure a projected date is good goal but, let's be honest. Those dates are not set in stone and can be changed if it is going to sacrifice the functionality of the unit in production.

 

[pepsima1]

prices keep dropping

Uniden BCD536HP P 25 Phase II TDMA Digital Self Programing Police Scanner | eBay

 

[EDCScanner]

prices keep dropping

Uniden BCD536HP P 25 Phase II TDMA Digital Self Programing Police Scanner | eBay

I have notice that as well. Was looking last night on scanner master and noticed it was the same price. Yet Uniden website is holding strong at $699. Dealers know they can't push them at this point otherwise unless they drop the price. Heck by Black Friday these puppies may be cheaper than the *96XT's!

 

[PhillyPhoto]

People say it would have been bad to halt production, but let's look at it another way. Whistler wasn't producing anything at the time they announced the x36 scanners, so what was the rush? How much better would Uniden be right now if instead of having scanners with features missing and hitting everyone up for more money with the HP2, what if they made an announcement for the HP2 & the x36 right now? They would have had 10 more months to fix the issues without dealing what's already out in the wild. Plus, they're offering 3 scanners capable of Phase 2 - 2 being brand new altogether. On top of that, they could have seen the state of how things were going and then decide if they could fulfill the promises of Siren and Analyze and if they should announce them or not. Not to mention it would have been a lot easier to swap out for a different WiFi dongle without thousands already being sold. To make up any lost market share in the Whistler scanners that came out in the past few months, they could have charged for the extreme upgrade on all 3 scanners.

It feels like the x36 scanners were rushed to get ahead of whatever rumors they had heard about Whistler and in the end, pushed an unfinished product to their own detriment.

I appreciate the update and regardless what he says the speculations and feedback will still be negative. I am sure that is to be expect but, it is at least an effort which is more than what we have been given and is all some of us have been asking for. You're not going to be able to stop people from reading between the lines.

For me, based on what we know now. It is kind of what I have be saying all along. This almost sounds like it was pushed to production way prematurely before there was a working protocol to even produce. It should have never been pushed to production until these main advertised features were working. Keep in mind I am saying BEFORE production. I know it is costly to stop post production. It is ludicrous to say I have an idea and I am going to give myself a year to complete from concept to production and if it isn't fully working then oh well, I will release it anyways and figure it out along the way. Which is what some of the trolls are suggesting. No one puts a timeline on R&D and if you do that is just bad business. Sure a projected date is good goal but, let's be honest. Those dates are not set in stone and can be changed if it is going to sacrifice the functionality of the unit in production.

 

[mule1075]

I have notice that as well. Was looking last night on scanner master and noticed it was the same price. Yet Uniden website is holding strong at $699. Dealers know they can't push them at this point otherwise unless they drop the price. Heck by Black Friday these puppies may be cheaper than the *96XT's!

The prices on Unidens site are always right around $100 dollars more. And yes not for just these models before you ask going all the way back to 796d it has been the case on their site.

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[pepsima1]

I have notice that as well. Was looking last night on scanner master and noticed it was the same price. Yet Uniden website is holding strong at $699. Dealers know they can't push them at this point otherwise unless they drop the price. Heck by Black Friday these puppies may be cheaper than the *96XT's!

the 996xt is a solid bullet proof radio and the price for those radios are staying pretty strong so far.

Glad to see that the value of those 536 radios are dropping as they should. Once the price keeps dropping there is no turning back northbound.

 

[mule1075]

3 536 on eBay under any of the dealers prices out their scanner master etc.Hardly shows that they are dropping in value.

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[pepsima1]

It's just a start to what is about to come. Look at it this way if people start lowering their prices the other companies will have to follow suit. You have no choice in the matter or you will get stuck with your inventory.

Why would you go to a retailer online and buy a radio and pay tax and shipping when you can go to EBAY and pay a lower price with no tax and free shipping. No brainer... Plus you get EBAY buyers protection which the buyer has all of the rights.

1+1=2 on this math equation

 

[Jay911]

How much better would Uniden be right now if instead of having scanners with features missing and hitting everyone up for more money with the HP2, what if they made an announcement for the HP2 & the x36 right now? (...) Plus, they're offering 3 scanners capable of Phase 2 - 2 being brand new altogether.

I think what you're saying is they should have released the x36 line and HP2 now all together instead of the x36 last year and the HP2 this year. I don't think it would have worked, because (for better or for worse, depending on your opinion) I think the HP2's ability to handle P2 at all is very likely based on the results of how well the x36 line is performing at the same task. In other words, without the "wide beta" of the x36 customers, the HP2 wouldn't be ready.

Interesting thought just came to me - has anyone inquired as to whether or not the HP2 handles LSM as well as the x36 line does (compared to the HP1/x96)?

 

[wise871]

Speaking of the Analyzer, I for one still can't imagine how this will look on the 436 or even the 536 with it's smaller display. Seeing it on a HP series I understand because it has the room. Also isn't this something that Uniden engineers would be working in house since the Wi-Fi dongle is being negotiated and waiting for outside engineers to finish.

 

[Jay911]

Speaking of the Analyzer, I for one still can't imagine how this will look on the 436 or even the 536 with it's smaller display. Seeing it on a HP series I understand because it has the room. Also isn't this something that Uniden engineers would be working in house since the Wi-Fi dongle is being negotiated and waiting for outside engineers to finish.

Like I said in my Analyze poll thread, I suspect the visual display might be part of the issue, but then again, it's probably not necessary to have the full display on many of those features (such as LCN finder or Activity Log).

 

[EDCScanner]

People say it would have been bad to halt production, but let's look at it another way. Whistler wasn't producing anything at the time they announced the x36 scanners, so what was the rush? How much better would Uniden be right now if instead of having scanners with features missing and hitting everyone up for more money with the HP2, what if they made an announcement for the HP2 & the x36 right now? They would have had 10 more months to fix the issues without dealing what's already out in the wild. Plus, they're offering 3 scanners capable of Phase 2 - 2 being brand new altogether. On top of that, they could have seen the state of how things were going and then decide if they could fulfill the promises of Siren and Analyze and if they should announce them or not. Not to mention it would have been a lot easier to swap out for a different WiFi dongle without thousands already being sold. To make up any lost market share in the Whistler scanners that came out in the past few months, they could have charged for the extreme upgrade on all 3 scanners.

It feels like the x36 scanners were rushed to get ahead of whatever rumors they had heard about Whistler and in the end, pushed an unfinished product to their own detriment.

Yep! I agree, you pretty much said what I was saying just in a different way.

R&D can easily be extended without it being costly since no announcement has been made and nothing has been produced. Once you go to production then you are set in stone with what you have and yes then changes get costly. I agree, these were rush to production way to soon before they had a complete working protocol with the working advertised features to even go to production with.

 

[wise871]

Like I said in my Analyze poll thread, I suspect the visual display might be part of the issue, but then again, it's probably not necessary to have the full display on many of those features (such as LCN finder or Activity Log).

I didn't see your earlier post. Makes since. Thanks

 

[PhillyPhoto]

I think what you're saying is they should have released the x36 line and HP2 now all together instead of the x36 last year and the HP2 this year.

Yes, exactly.

I don't think it would have worked, because (for better or for worse, depending on your opinion) I think the HP2's ability to handle P2 at all is very likely based on the results of how well the x36 line is performing at the same task. In other words, without the "wide beta" of the x36 customers, the HP2 wouldn't be ready.

This is probably more accurate than anything else. Not to mention the "beta" firmware for HP1 users earlier this year. They probably combined the two results into the HP2 on the software side so they can avoid better hardware.