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Nice work sir! I'd be interested in New York State and Massachusetts.

I will assume that the Finger Lakes National Forest is on the Green Mountain National Forest Net of 169.175 and is dispatched by the Northeastern Interagency Coordination Center in Campton, New Hampshire.
 

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I will assume that the Finger Lakes National Forest is on the Green Mountain National Forest Net of 169.175 and is dispatched by the Northeastern Interagency Coordination Center in Campton, New Hampshire.
Last and only known info for the Finger Lakes is 171.5250 R 110.9 for the Burnt Hill Repeater from an IAP, never validated OTA
 

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Nice work sir! I'd be interested in New York State and Massachusetts.

Further information for others who are not familiar with the National Forest System. There are 155 National Forests and 20 National Grasslands covering about 193 million acres in the United States and Puerto Rico. The following states do not have one of these 175 units:

Connecticut
Delaware
Hawaii
Iowa
Maryland
Massachusetts
New Jersey
Rhode Island

Kansas nearly made this list, but it has the 108,175 acre Cimarron National Grassland in the southwest corner of the state. It is actually administered by the Pike-San Isabel National Forests in Pueblo, Colorado. It also administers the nearby Comanche National Grassland in Colorado.
 

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Last and only known info for the Finger Lakes is 171.5250 R 110.9 for the Burnt Hill Repeater from an IAP, never validated OTA

That is also the frequency for the White Mtn. National Forest in New Hampshire. There is plenty of topographic and distance to keep the Finger Lakes NF from interfering with the White Mtn. NF. The Finger Lakes NF is so small (approx. 16,000 acres) I can't imagine there is a lot of radio traffic on it. This is one of just a couple of National Forests where there is a Forest Supervisor and no Ranger Districts.

The National Forest System has 3 branches at the national level: National Forest System, State and Private Forestry and Research. State and Private Forestry provides assistance to state forestry agencies (grant money and information) and private landowners. Research is obvious. Some of the 8 states that don't have a National Forest or Grassland do have research facilities in them. There also may be positions in state capitals of those 8 states that are there to advise state agencies. I will not attempt to go through the latest employee directory or the list of research facilities and their locations.

EDIT: at one time I researched the number of states I could work in, including research and the count was 44 states. I definitely considered it a benefit that I could choose 44 states from Alaska to Puerto Rico to transfer to. Transfer costs incurred by the employee such as moving property, real estate and travel are reimbursed by the federal government. Units have to cover these costs and it usually means not filling positions right away when they go vacant so the savings can be used to cover these costs. The workload of the position has to be absorbed by other employees who already have full workloads.
 
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One thing I noticed on several of the Southern GACC (Geographical Area Coordination Center) dispatch centers is that they have a "local flight following frequency of 168.7500. Many interagency dispatch centers in the west have a local flight following frequency and one or two remote bases on a unique frequency. The 168.7500 frequency is in the tactical or simplex portion of the NTIA (National Telecommunications and Information Administration - the "FCC" for the federal govt.). An exception to that allocation had to be made to have this frequency in remote bases, which simplex is not normally allowed to be programmed in bases. It was likely "grandfathered" in. Local flight following is normally provided to get as much traffic off of National Flight Following as possible so not every nearby dispatch center has their remote bases kicked on. The local flight following keeps aircraft to dispatch center traffic off local forest park, state and BLM District (in the west) nets.
 

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I hope these threads spur some discussion and observations based on listening to these Eastern GACC National Forests. That is the point. ecps92 has provided links to a number of National Forest Wiki listings. Some of them are quite good. However, you may notice that they have been posted from some time ago and have not spurred any activity as far as people posting confirmations from listening to the listed frequencies.

That is too bad, but it is the reason I have posted all these listings on the federal forum. Now, it is up to the members to confirm or provide comments to what is listed in the posts. WE NEED FEEDBACK FOLKS so we can make the database current and accurate!
 

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I hope these threads spur some discussion and observations based on listening to these Eastern GACC National Forests. That is the point. ecps92 has provided links to a number of National Forest Wiki listings. Some of them are quite good. However, you may notice that they have been posted from some time ago and have not spurred any activity as far as people posting confirmations from listening to the listed frequencies.

That is too bad, but it is the reason I have posted all these listings on the federal forum. Now, it is up to the members to confirm or provide comments to what is listed in the posts. WE NEED FEEDBACK FOLKS so we can make the database current and accurate!
People don't want to search anymore, Scanners have Databases full of $h!t now, just enable and go.
It's the Dinosaurs who do all the work for them, validating data.

How far we have fallen from Police Call (FCC Data Dumps) to the rise of Trunked Radio Net/Radio Reference, but then users want to be spoon-fed. :( or worse, why is xy and z not in my weekly download

Yes, the wiki's have been out there for a long time, Many I forgot had been written based on public information, others from good solid sources, but till it's actually heard, it Really doesn't exist. I've seen many a document, Code Plug with data and come to find out they never installed the Repeater, yet it's in someones radio.

Yes, lets spark interest, let's Report (anyone can edit a Wiki) even via the forums, when did you last hear xyz Repeater, was that the correct PL/DPL/NAC, have you found UHF (400-420) links to/from the report sites... what is the tone, are these Fire, Forest, LE Nets??

And No Folks - the FEDERAL Bands are NOT ALL ENC, so No, I am not moving on - Search / Listen / Report and Share
 

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After reading the updates to this thread, I decided to time myself tracking down the NC page for the USFS, starting from here.

As a non-techie, at the 8 minute mark I finally found:


Which I suppose is where I wanted to get to.

I can only hope the page is waiting to be approved, and I didn't just simply miss it. If this hadn't been a deliberate exercise/experiment I would have certainly given up earlier.

It ain't intuitive for us non-techies.
 

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After reading the updates to this thread, I decided to time myself tracking down the NC page for the USFS, starting from here.

As a non-techie, at the 8 minute mark I finally found:


Which I suppose is where I wanted to get to.

I can only hope the page is waiting to be approved, and I didn't just simply miss it. If this hadn't been a deliberate exercise/experiment I would have certainly given up earlier.

It ain't intuitive for us non-techies.
It means it doesn't exist, as there are no links to a wiki from that link page to
Croatan, Nantahala, Pisgah, and Uwharrie National Forests

there is no approval process for Wiki work
 
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