Former President Bush to Indianapolis,Indiana on April 15,2010

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Can any of our members provide any frequencies used by Secret Service for The Former President Detail.Former President Bush Senior is comming to Indianapolis,Indiana on April 15,2010 Thursday at Conseco for a get together where he is going to speak to a large crowd.Can anyone assist me so I can put these frequencies into my Uniden 996T.Thanks for your help.Best Reguards,Tim DeLong W9NES
 

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Check out;
United States Secret Service - The RadioReference Wiki
Pay attention to the COST channels, Charlie, Oscar, Sierra & Tango as well as a few others, and search 162-174 MHz and if you're close enough 406-420 MHz
A day or two or three before the event you should hear some radio testing in the clear and ENC, expect on the day of the event 99% of all comms to be ENC,
Most areas of the Country the S.S. have made the switch to P-25.
Your mileage may vary
 

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Check out;
United States Secret Service - The RadioReference Wiki
Pay attention to the COST channels, Charlie, Oscar, Sierra & Tango as well as a few others, and search 162-174 MHz and if you're close enough 406-420 MHz
A day or two or three before the event you should hear some radio testing in the clear and ENC, expect on the day of the event 99% of all comms to be ENC,
Most areas of the Country the S.S. have made the switch to P-25.
Your mileage may vary
My mileage is that your suggestion is more along the lines of a current POTUS visit, not a former POTUS.

He's going to arrive in town with the couple members of his own detail, they'll be met up with a local SS detail as well as maybe some of the state PD's dignitary protection detail or a state/county/city SWAT team with executive protection training, other SWAT members will be deployed, either cooped up in a van or room, or dispersed around the venue, and there will be local LEOs doing a small motorcade escort, crowd details, etc. The level of local LE participation varies, but is usually worked-out far in advance by the organization that's sponsoring the visit. No community wants to be known as the place where some $hithead was able to kill a current or former president, though, so some offer more support than is needed.

The SS presence won't be large enough to really be on multiple channels. Back in the day, Mike channel was set-aside for former POTUS details, but I agree with you it'll probably be on Charlie or one of a few others. I agree it'll be P-25, but disagree that there should be radio testing a couple days in advance (no WHCA Advance setting up temporary radio sites), & while I'd hope the SS comms are secure, unfortunately, I don't agree with the 99% liklihood.


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Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8310/4.5.0.182 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

I've heard a radio check today on Tango, that's been it so far.

But it's early.
 

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Not related to this event, but on the 14th I was going up the east coast of FL and heard channels D and S active with encryption. Somewhere around the space coast. The range was not that long, so I would assume it was mobile traffic. I wonder "who" was in the area that day?
 

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Not related to this event, but on the 14th I was going up the east coast of FL and heard channels D and S active with encryption. Somewhere around the space coast. The range was not that long, so I would assume it was mobile traffic. I wonder "who" was in the area that day?
Obama was at the Kennedy Space center yesterday.
 

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part of his "ending space missions plan" and telling them they will all be looking for new jobs soon....
 

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Not related to this event, but on the 14th I was going up the east coast of FL and heard channels D and S active with encryption. Somewhere around the space coast. The range was not that long, so I would assume it was mobile traffic. I wonder "who" was in the area that day?
Assuming your "Delta" is the same as mine, it's unusual that channel would have been in use during a POTUS visit somewhere these days.


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Assuming your "Delta" is the same as mine, it's unusual that channel would have been in use during a POTUS visit somewhere these days.


Tim
169.9250 was the freq, and I have been hearing this channel used by many pres visits here in FL.
 

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My mileage is that your suggestion is more along the lines of a current POTUS visit, not a former POTUS.

He's going to arrive in town with the couple members of his own detail, they'll be met up with a local SS detail as well as maybe some of the state PD's dignitary protection detail or a state/county/city SWAT team with executive protection training, other SWAT members will be deployed, either cooped up in a van or room, or dispersed around the venue, and there will be local LEOs doing a small motorcade escort, crowd details, etc. The level of local LE participation varies, but is usually worked-out far in advance by the organization that's sponsoring the visit. No community wants to be known as the place where some $hithead was able to kill a current or former president, though, so some offer more support than is needed.

The SS presence won't be large enough to really be on multiple channels. Back in the day, Mike channel was set-aside for former POTUS details, but I agree with you it'll probably be on Charlie or one of a few others. I agree it'll be P-25, but disagree that there should be radio testing a couple days in advance (no WHCA Advance setting up temporary radio sites), & while I'd hope the SS comms are secure, unfortunately, I don't agree with the 99% liklihood.


Tim
Secret Service may be encrypted, but your local police may provide some details, etc.
Bush came to the airport across from me a few years ago. Secret Service was encrypted,but the county sheriff was part of the motorcade for traffic control and broadcasted the location of the motorcade as it passed intersections. I was just like wth. You would think someone would have thought of this.
 

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I was around a Clinton visit in my hometown once when he was POTUS, & I was monitoring SS plus the locals.SS was the usual secure plus very low-power clear voice inside the 'bubble' on a couple channels, while local LE was clear-voice on a local mutual-aid channel. Local command officer A got on the channel they were using & told local command officer B to call him on the cell phone immediately. I noticed some excitement to the tone of voice, so I decided to investigate.

I was able to find that cell phone conversation pretty quickly, and it turned-out that ol' Bubba was going to make a no-notice/unannounced stop at a local Coney Island joint along the planned motorcade route in that city (hey Humpty or Wall-Cloud Willie, is Abe's still there?) & would be arriving there in about 20 minutes. SS advised the local command officer to NOT relay that info out over the radio. It was just a head's-up, since the motorcade would have passed by that location anyway.

That intercept gave me tactical intelligence that, had I any interest whatsoever in meeting Bill Clinton, could have allowed me to get to that restaurant in advance of him & his motorcade, take a seat & order some food, and then act surprised when he came strolling in to shake hands with the other customers & eat a hot dog or three or four. Since it was a 'secret'/no-notice visit, SS wouldn't be screening anyone who was in the restaurant prior to the principal's arrival, since theoretically, no one but him & a few cleared personnel knew he'd be stopping there in advance. If I'd had sinister thoughts, such as if I were Monica Lewinski's father, well, I could have wiped my hand on my ass before I shook his hand... Wow, what a proud photo of Bill & I that would have made!! Now I'm sorry I didn't rush to my car & go to the restaurant...

Same sort of thing happened with VP Dan Quayle a long time ago, this time involving a grocery store. My girlfriend & I made it inside about 30 seconds before his motorcade pulled up, & were able to shake his hand, plus I asked him if he was going to be buying broccoli (it was right after GWB got all the publicity because he said he doesn't like broccoli (see: Bush, George quote - I do not like broccoli. And I haven't liked it since I was a little ki... ).


The local public safety comms have always been a vulnerability for SS motorcades. It's discussed by the Advance agents in the planning meetings with the locals. Not much that can be done about it, other than to limit the amount of info you give to the locals until they need to know it, & give them info about alternate routes & other contingencies on paper so that if something occurs, there doesn't have to be a lot of non-secure specifics broadcast out. The local motorcade lead car has an SS agent in it with a secure radio, too.
 
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