Fresno CA FD Ch 7 - 2007

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Per a 2007 Fresno FD document, Ch 7 is 173.275 - for portable radio extenders. Anyone hear that in use?
 

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This is what the database has for Fresno FD presently. Can anyone comment on this?

153.62000 159.73500 RM 100.0 PL FresnoFDGLD Fire Command "GOLD" FM Fire-Tac
154.37000 154.20500 KBJ924 RM 173.8 PL FresnoFDGrn Fire Dispatch "Green" FM Fire Dispatch
153.84500 153.95000 KIU946 RM 173.8 PL FresnoFDRed Fire Command "Red" FM Fire-Tac
153.62000 159.73500 WPSK372 RM 100.0 PL FresnoFDYel Fire Rural Dispatch "Yellow" FM Fire Dispatch
153.19000 153.95000 KMA206 RM FresnoFDT1 Fire Tac 1 FM Fire-Tac
153.31000 153.95000 KBJ924 RM FresnoFDT2 Fire Tac 2 FM Fire-Tac
154.43000 KBJ924 M FresnoEMSTac EMS Tactical 1 FM EMS-Tac
 

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These should have been verified by the person submitting the information. Taken at face value I know that I have heard FresnoFDGLD, and FresnoFDGRN within the past week
 

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This is what the database has for Fresno FD presently. Can anyone comment on this?

153.62000 159.73500 RM 100.0 PL FresnoFDGLD Fire Command "GOLD" FM Fire-Tac
154.37000 154.20500 KBJ924 RM 173.8 PL FresnoFDGrn Fire Dispatch "Green" FM Fire Dispatch
153.84500 153.95000 KIU946 RM 173.8 PL FresnoFDRed Fire Command "Red" FM Fire-Tac
153.62000 159.73500 WPSK372 RM 100.0 PL FresnoFDYel Fire Rural Dispatch "Yellow" FM Fire Dispatch
153.19000 153.95000 KMA206 RM FresnoFDT1 Fire Tac 1 FM Fire-Tac
153.31000 153.95000 KBJ924 RM FresnoFDT2 Fire Tac 2 FM Fire-Tac
154.43000 KBJ924 M FresnoEMSTac EMS Tactical 1 FM EMS-Tac
153.620 and 154.190 were freqs from the old North Central Fire Protection District. The district decided to contract with Fresno fire in a cost saving measure. They had 5 stations covering the county islands in and around Fresno and the rural area west of Fresno. 2 stations were closed because of nearby Fresno city stations and 3 were left open in the more rural ares.

I am not sure but I believe they dispatch on both yellow and green.
 

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This is what the database has for Fresno FD presently. Can anyone comment on this?

153.62000 159.73500 RM 100.0 PL FresnoFDGLD Fire Command "GOLD" FM Fire-Tac
154.37000 154.20500 KBJ924 RM 173.8 PL FresnoFDGrn Fire Dispatch "Green" FM Fire Dispatch
153.84500 153.95000 KIU946 RM 173.8 PL FresnoFDRed Fire Command "Red" FM Fire-Tac
153.62000 159.73500 WPSK372 RM 100.0 PL FresnoFDYel Fire Rural Dispatch "Yellow" FM Fire Dispatch
153.19000 153.95000 KMA206 RM FresnoFDT1 Fire Tac 1 FM Fire-Tac
153.31000 153.95000 KBJ924 RM FresnoFDT2 Fire Tac 2 FM Fire-Tac
154.43000 KBJ924 M FresnoEMSTac EMS Tactical 1 FM EMS-Tac
The 2 tac channels that read 153.190 and 153.310 should be 154.190 and 154.310. Update has been submitted to the data base , bit it seems there is a 4+ weeks lag for the updates to make it into the data base.
 

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Update has been submitted to the data base , bit it seems there is a 4+ weeks lag for the updates to make it into the data base.
Please show me where it's taken your submissions 4+ weeks to make it in the database?

Also SUBMISSIONS ARE ENTERED BASED ON MONITORING, NOT FCC LICENSES,

so like I asked you in your submission, ARE THESE BASED ON MONITORING OR FCC LICENSES, for which i have not received a direct response

this was your submission submitted 8/11/11

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153.19000 153.95000 KMA206 BM FresCityT1 Fire Command FM Fire-Tac
153.31000 153.95000 KBJ924 BM FresCityT2 Fire Command FM Fire-Tac
 
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153.19000 153.95000 KMA206 BM FresCityT1 Fire Command FM Fire-Tac
153.31000 153.95000 KBJ924 BM FresCityT2 Fire Command FM Fire-Tac
153.190 is wrong. It should be 154.190. 153.310 might be wrong too. It has been a few years since monitoring FFD. I thought it was 154.310.
 

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Yes. Monitored it for 15 years. It was the old North Central Fire Protection District dispatch freq before being contracted out to FFD.
 

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Please show me where it's taken your submissions 4+ weeks to make it in the database?

Also SUBMISSIONS ARE ENTERED BASED ON MONITORING, NOT FCC LICENSES,

so like I asked you in your submission, ARE THESE BASED ON MONITORING OR FCC LICENSES, for which i have not received a direct response

this was your submission submitted 8/11/11

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153.19000 153.95000 KMA206 BM FresCityT1 Fire Command FM Fire-Tac
153.31000 153.95000 KBJ924 BM FresCityT2 Fire Command FM Fire-Tac
If that was an update from me, then I apologize for the TYPO I made. In both cases it should have been typed 154... not 153....

Both frequencies have been monitored and are used as confirmed form past trips to Fresno, while I am only able to get a greatly reduced signal on the 154.190 I still last night got about 9 hits on the counter vs none on the 2 erroneous frequencies. Erroneous? That is because those frequencies do not mesh in any of the "available or usable" frequencies in that frequency range. I secondly clarified the correction as I pointed to that fact that this typo was obviously a typo with the fact of when clicking on the licenses of each that the RR page give the correct frequency. This has since further been confirmed by another - local DB Admin that lives in the area.

I know in the past when similar errors or obvious typos have been found that such corrections have been made with similar comments as I have made in this submission. Is this no longer the case?

I am sorry - I was only trying to correct incorrect data in the data base. I guess next time I should just correct my own personal data base, and not share with those on RR?

And you are right it has only been two and a half weeks since I submitted 125561 and 125562 with yet no action on those. Using the timeline that past submissions I only presumed that it would be four weeks. If I am out of line for being presumptuous I am sorry.
 
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I am sorry - I was only trying to correct incorrect data in the data base. I guess next time I should just correct my own personal data base, and not share with those on RR?

And you are right it has only been two and a half weeks since I submitted 125561 and 125562 with yet not action on those. Using the timeline that past submissions I only presumed that it would be four weeks. If I am out of line for being presumptuous I am sorry.
Do what ever you want with your own DB I don't care. But since you submitted "corrections" a few months ago, then recently submit new corrections, I have to question the accuracy.

And obviously you aren't aware that amateur stuff isn't handled by local admins, but the global admins. So if you have complaints about how slow they are, you might take it up with them directly rather than in the forums
 

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Do what ever you want with your own DB I don't care. But since you submitted "corrections" a few months ago, then recently submit new corrections, I have to question the accuracy.

And obviously you aren't aware that amateur stuff isn't handled by local admins, but the global admins. So if you have complaints about how slow they are, you might take it up with them directly rather than in the forums
I beg you pardon... But I did NOT ask anything about my personal database. I only asked if I should not share data on this site with my fellow RR users. I have no problem with the questioning of corrections of a typo that went unnoticed on a previous correction - or should I say the submission last Summer should be properly referred to as an up-date reflecting an addition of these 2 tactical frequencies.

And to ALL - once again I am sorry for the typo on that submission of a 3 in place of a 4.

I try very had to contribute accurate information - one reason why I have yet to provide the latest info on many new county wide frequencies here. As these new frequencies are subject to change with the communication expansion of inter-op and cross-band systems being set up. Our dang radio techs are still working on surprises, over at the east side of the county. Also why I gave no data but only mentioned that I heard Fresno Fire on a Cooks trunked system - not sure if something got plugged in wrong, they have a new training channel or if there some unannounced news.

As to how the data base is administered... NO, I am not aware, nor should I be, on how that is done. This is something that should be transparent to the user. But strange some of the trunked data submitted and I can't give details as I have no access on the dates; but some of the submissions took over a month if not 2 or more. I am not blaming you nor any of the local admin - it was just something that happen and stuff happens.

Frankly I think that you as D-Base Admins you are having to deal with an antiquated way of dealing with submissions and that creates more work that should not have to be duplicated. No reason the data base entries can't be inputted in all it's fields by the submitter and then just reviewed and verified as needed by the admins.
 
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I guess next time I should just correct my own personal data base, and not share with those on RR?
I for one would like you to continue to share your information with the rest of us. We all need to look at this from the DB ADMIN side of things also. I for one have been questioned on my submissions and sometimes feel as though I am being treated unfairly, but the adins put up with a lot of crap from posters who give erroneousness information. These men and women are volunteering their time to ensure the data base is accurate so all can enjoy this hobby to the fullest:)
Remember the admin does not live in our area and may not have been aware that the two departments merged and Fresno took over some frequencies.
I see this issue from both sides and I hope you will continue to share with the RR community as you are valued by the rest of us.
 

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153.62000 159.73500 RM 100.0 PL FresnoFDGld Fire Command "GOLD" FM Fire-Tac
154.37000 154.20500 KBJ924 RM 173.8 PL FresnoFDGrn Fire Dispatch "Green" FM Fire Dispatch
153.84500 153.95000 KIU946 RM 173.8 PL FresnoFDRed Fire Command "Red" FM Fire-Tac
153.62000 159.73500 WPSK372 RM 100.0 PL FresnoFDYel Fire Rural Dispatch "Yellow" FM Fire Dispatch
154.19000 153.95000 KMA206 RM FresnoFDT1 Fire Tac 1 FM Fire-Tac
154.31000 153.95000 KBJ924 RM FresnoFDT2 Fire Tac 2 FM Fire-Tac
154.43000 KBJ924 M FresnoEMSTac EMS Tactical 1 FM EMS-Tac


Is this correct now? Why is 153.95 the input to 3 different repeaters? Why is 153.62 labeled as Gold and as Yellow? When is Red used vs Tac 1 and Tac 2? Is 154.43 used to talk to portable radios on ambulances? Inquiring minds yadda .....
 

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153.62000 159.73500 RM 100.0 PL FresnoFDGld Fire Command "GOLD" FM Fire-Tac
154.37000 154.20500 KBJ924 RM 173.8 PL FresnoFDGrn Fire Dispatch "Green" FM Fire Dispatch
153.84500 153.95000 KIU946 RM 173.8 PL FresnoFDRed Fire Command "Red" FM Fire-Tac
153.62000 159.73500 WPSK372 RM 100.0 PL FresnoFDYel Fire Rural Dispatch "Yellow" FM Fire Dispatch
154.19000 153.95000 KMA206 RM FresnoFDT1 Fire Tac 1 FM Fire-Tac
154.31000 153.95000 KBJ924 RM FresnoFDT2 Fire Tac 2 FM Fire-Tac
154.43000 KBJ924 M FresnoEMSTac EMS Tactical 1 FM EMS-Tac


Is this correct now? Why is 153.95 the input to 3 different repeaters? Why is 153.62 labeled as Gold and as Yellow? When is Red used vs Tac 1 and Tac 2? Is 154.43 used to talk to portable radios on ambulances? Inquiring minds yadda .....
The green, red, and yellow/gold channels are classified as command channels. In the case of green and red, these are called that over the radio. Our local fire terminology call a command channel is a channel that the IC or single resource at an incident uses to communicate with dispatch. Now this can vary per incident and per department or district. A tac channel is like the old "fireground" channel and many times still so referred. This channel normally has no link to the dispatcher (again local protocols or the situation may dictate otherwise). This leaves a channel or more on larger incidents for incident operations and dispatch need not worry if they miss traffic directed to them. Dispatch is normally contacted on the command channel.

Busier departments may have a dispatch only channel, others like Fresno, runs some command traffic on their dispatch moving the larger incidents to a different command channel.

I can only conjecture on the one input being listed for 3 separate repeaters. I did see in looking as the FCC license that both tac channels as licensed for repeater or simplex use. What maybe used and only our Fresno insiders can help, is that these tac repeaters are normally simplex and used only as repeaters when necessary as in a wide area incident. Each repeater in such a case would have an unique input pl that is responds to. Again only a lame guess. These are such low level frequencies that I have yet to hear them in operation. All I get on Tac 1 is Sac Fire's VHF duplexing their dispatches. I used to even get Porterville on that frequency, but now just the north country. So much for my being able to find the pl's for the tac channels this way.

I will try to remember to check in my department radio load for any discrepancies (and may help the multiple repeaters with one input question).

As to your Gold vs Yellow looks like either an transition or the one is an older listing, waiting for an update to be completed.
 

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As one of the "Fresno Insiders", the Fresno Fire channels are all going to change in the near future, names and assignments. Frequencies will stay somewhat the same. Standby...
 
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