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Full Spectrum Scan WACN ID FFFFF And System ID FFF Or Not?

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JASII

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I have a Unication G5. Occasionally I will use the Full Spectrum Scan feature.

For others here that do that, have you had better luck using WACN ID FFFFF and System ID FFF or the ones unique to the system you hope to hear?
 

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Unique to the system, otherwise you will pick up other systems and it will slow you down.

Using WACN ID FFFFF and System ID FFF is great for searching for unknowns.
 

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I tweaked mine this weekend.

I typically monitor an 800 mHz trunked system.

I had the Full Spectrum Scan range set at 851.0125 to 865.9875.

I realized that the highest frequency in that system was 860.9875.

So, I changed both the frequency range AND set the WACN ID to FFFFF and System ID to FFF.

Before I made the changes, it would take a while and then I would sometimes get no systems found or whatever the message was.

Certainly, looking through only 10 mHz of spectrum rather than 15 mHz has helped, but I think in my case the WACN ID and System ID settings

may have helped, too.

I am somewhat tempted to try either just the WACN ID or just the System ID to see what the result are.

I am just curious, if anybody here is using just one of the specific settings and not the other, which works better and why?
 

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I am somewhat tempted to do some additional testing on this. It makes no sense to me that it was so hit-or-miss with the correct WACN ID and System ID.

I might try just the correct System ID with WACN ID as FFFFF. Also, I might also try the correct WACN ID with System ID as FFF. It seems to me that they should all perform basically the same, but time will tell.
 

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@JASII here is what I think is the problem, while the pager will scan like that, it is not designed as a scanner, it is and will continue to be a pager on a system/site/control channel it works great, but using your words it is "hit-or-miss" with Free Scan. Use it as a pager to monitor like intended and you'll see amazing performance, use it as a scanner and you'll get less than amazing results.

That said hope the additional testing goes well.
 

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What system are you trying to monitor? It sounds to me like you don't have all the control channels in the list. Ensure all the control channels are listed for the site(s) you're trying to monitor and try to minimize the use of full-spectrum control channel search for when you're covering a large statewide system or monitoring a system that you don't have confirmed frequencies for yet. The pager will check the control channel list first and if nothing is found it will begin the spectrum search if that option is enabled. Band limits should be 851.0125 - 860.9875 with 12.5 kHz steps, and 700 MHz should be 769.00625 - 774.99375 also with 12.5 kHz steps.
 

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What system are you trying to monitor?...

I am monitoring ARMER in Minnesota. For my area, I am good.

It is when I am traveling around the state that I want to simplify it, if I can.

While I can program in all of the Control Channels and Alternate Control Channels, I was trying to avoid that.

Perhaps what I will do is try to program in all known Control Channels in the state.

If I recall correctly, there is a maximum that the Unication can accept. (It seems like 256.)

Thank you for the reply!
 

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I am monitoring ARMER in Minnesota. For my area, I am good.
It is when I am traveling around the state that I want to simplify it, if I can.
While I can program in all of the Control Channels and Alternate Control Channels, I was trying to avoid that.

If that is what you are trying to do, I suggest you use the Full Spectrum Scan for the control channels and put in the system IDs. Locally if I try to use the Free Scan I do not get good results, but when I recently took a trip through a couple counties the towers handed off great, usually without me noticing,

The only concern with using FSS is that it starts at the lowest point, or frequency it is on, and scans up. This could cause an issue if there are two nearby towers with acceptable RSSI levels as the pager will stop on the first one it comes to and holds onto it until the levels drop, which may not be the one in the area you are actually in. I have this issue traveling from Raleigh to Durham as even in Durham it stays locked onto the West Raleigh site due to the signal strength.

Screenshot 2022-02-01 21.58.16.png

System in blue shows setup I'm using for our statewide VIPER system.
 
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