G5 Od behavior when powered off overnight

[Tidalwave]

PM Sent.

Just for others on here: I do not use the stand. It's happened twice to me. Once when fully charged and once when down to 1 bar. It does not happen every night. Both times I was able to turn it on and it worked just fine.

 

[philcovington]

I noticed when my G5 does this, when I turn power on, the G5 "reboots" like it does when you have updated it with the programming software (the ...... screen shows up).

It looks like the G5 runs an OS and the OS is embedded linux. It might be that the linux OS crashes and needs to reboot. Why all the LEDs turn on, I don't know...

This is how I determined that the G5 is running linux: On a linux machine (haven't tried it on a Windows machine), the G5 shows up as an Ethernet interface when connected via the USB cable. My particular G5 has an IP address of 10.10.0.6. It also appears that you can SSH into the G5 if you know the username and password (which I do not).

To verify that the G5 is running linux, you can use the nmap utility's OS detection feature on your linux PC:

>sudo nmap -O 10.10.0.6

this is the result:

Starting Nmap 7.01 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2017-01-19 11:48 EST
Nmap scan report for 10.10.0.6
Host is up (0.000010s latency).
Not shown: 998 closed ports
PORT STATE SERVICE
22/tcp open ssh
8200/tcp open trivnet1
Device type: general purpose
Running: Linux 3.X
OS CPE: cpe:/o:linux:linux_kernel:3
OS details: Linux 3.12 - 3.19, Linux 3.8 - 3.19
Network Distance: 0 hops

So it looks like the G5 is using a Linux 3.X kernel and the SSH port 22 is open...

On my machine doing an
>ifconfig

the G5 shows up as:

enp0s20u7 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr be:6e:3b:3e:6f:6b
inet addr:10.10.0.6 Bcast:10.10.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0
inet6 addr: fe80::28a3:e00a:3adf:d029/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:2 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:127 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:594 (594.0 B) TX bytes:25988 (25.9 KB)

You can ping the G5 too:

ping 10.10.0.6
PING 10.10.0.6 (10.10.0.6) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 10.10.0.6: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.027 ms
64 bytes from 10.10.0.6: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.046 ms
64 bytes from 10.10.0.6: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.024 ms

 

[sparklehorse]

<snip> It looks like the G5 runs an OS and the OS is embedded linux. <snip>

I wonder if it's secretly running OP25 under the hood of its little Linux box.

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[DaveIN]

I like it. It means we have a sensitive receiver that works well on P25 and CQPSK with Linux OS resources for future expansion. I see reference to DMR in the programming software, so hopefully that will be next after P25 Phase II.

 

[pdaustin]

I just bought a G5 a few days ago and after charging full using usb and no cable connected with power off within a few hours around 5 or 7 or so I get this as well. I emailed tech. support today regarding this. The radio works fine otherwise.

 

[doctordave]

Add me to the list of people with this issue. The radio reboots when fired up and works normally.

 

[BBRC_Brent]

Some reason I can not send a PM. Please contact me and I will supply my serial number.
Brand new to me and does it about every 4-5 hours it is turned off.

 

[pdaustin]

I was emailed by Tech. Support stating it was a known issue caused by last firmware update and they are working on it and should hopefully be resolved by end of March firmware update!

 

[W8VI]

Has anyone had this issue with the G4?

 

[David_Oney]

As many of you know the G4/G5 has 3 power modes on, soft power down, and hard power down. When this issue occurs a unit in soft power down mode to go into hard power down mode and then indicates that change with the lights. We implemented the hard power down in the last release it is merely the indicator lights that is the issue. We are trying to extend battery life in all states it is better to leave your device off and then discover that it is fully powered down than to leave it off to return and find that your device's battery is completely dead.

 

[ffexpCP]

Interesting about the power state modes.

I just had mine alert for a page. It was in the amp charger, volume/power knob was clicked off. Take it out, and it appears off. I turn it on, it appears to 'boot'. And I know I'm not nuts because the message was stored and I can play it back.

Any ideas? I'm seriously about to send this thing back.

Edit- further info for troubleshooting: It was in VHF/tone mode. Amp charger did not trip relay output / LED.

 

[alpha2disp]

Mine is brand new and doing it after being turned off for a few hours. Every time. Not sure why.

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[David_Oney]

As many of you know the G4/G5 has 3 power modes on, soft power down, and hard power down. When this issue occurs a unit in soft power down mode to go into hard power down mode and then indicates that change with the lights. We implemented the hard power down in the last release it is merely the indicator lights that is the issue. We are trying to extend battery life in all states it is better to leave your device off and then discover that it is fully powered down than to leave it off to return and find that your device's battery is completely dead.

See my answer above... this issue is resolved in some alpha releases that i'm working on. This is a bug in R11P release and occurs when the unit switches power modes. Its simply a visual indication.

 

[krokus]

See my answer above... this issue is resolved in some alpha releases that i'm working on. This is a bug in R11P release and occurs when the unit switches power modes. Its simply a visual indication.

I hope this resolves the issues I had with some G4s. (Which have been sent back, on RMA.)

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[philcovington]

Mine is brand new and doing it after being turned off for a few hours. Every time. Not sure why.

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Exactly like mine.

 

[alpha2disp]

See my answer above... this issue is resolved in some alpha releases that i'm working on. This is a bug in R11P release and occurs when the unit switches power modes. Its simply a visual indication.

Thanks David.


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[GLNWDFD481]

I am having the same issue with one of my pagers also.

 

[MWW85]

Add me to the list also. R11P firmware.

 

[philcovington]

See my answer above... this issue is resolved in some alpha releases that i'm working on. This is a bug in R11P release and occurs when the unit switches power modes. Its simply a visual indication.

Having all LEDs stuck on is not exactly a low power mode! LOL!

Is there any progress on getting this fixed?

 

[David_Oney]

Having all LEDs stuck on is not exactly a low power mode! LOL!

Is there any progress on getting this fixed?

Lighting 3 LED's uses much less power than having the OS running.