cstockmyer
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What is a Humit? When some of the first units get to a fire they always say " Truck 10 is laying in from the plug with the humit." Thanks in advance.
I believe Pridemark also uses it.cstockmyer said:Are they the only one using the technology?
Exactly right. Since Denver SOPs requires a lay in on all reported fires, the Humat speeds operations at second alarm fires. The diagram is accurate except Denver only lays one more line. The second in engine reverse lays from the operating rig to the hytdrant, hooks Storer connection to the Humat 5" to the pump inlet, and outlets a 2 1/2 to the original line laid in as well as the reversed laid line and supplements hydrant pressure in a relay mode. Without the Humat, the hydrant has to be shut down to access the 5" supply. The Humat valve is mandatory in some Denver districts and at the officer's discretion in others.Toneslider12 said:A "Humat" is a valve that an Engine Company will attatch to the hydrant, then attatch hose to it. Denver is the only department that I know of in the metro area that uses them. The bennefit is that another enigne can come along later, hook up and help to pump water or get their own water from it. In Colorado we have "dry barrel" hydrants so there isn't water in them, only water in the water main underground. Once the water is turned on it will come out any opening on the hydrant, so once one hose is hooked up and charged no other hoses can be attatched with out shutting the water off first. A Humat allows you to hook up more hoses with out loosing water flow. Some departments will hook up a "gate valve" so they can hook up other hoses later also, the gate valve is more simple and more common.
On a side note - we have to have dry barrel hydrants because they would freeze otherwise. California is one place that has wet barrel hydrants that are full of water, they operate and look much different. If you google both types you can see the difference.
Here's a link to the Humat diagram - http://www.humat.com/ValveDeployment.html
kc0kp said:Exactly right. Since Denver SOPs requires a lay in on all reported fires, the Humat speeds operations at second alarm fires. The diagram is accurate except Denver only lays one more line. The second in engine reverse lays from the operating rig to the hytdrant, hooks Storer connection to the Humat 5" to the pump inlet, and outlets a 2 1/2 to the original line laid in as well as the reversed laid line and supplements hydrant pressure in a relay mode. Without the Humat, the hydrant has to be shut down to access the 5" supply. The Humat valve is mandatory in some Denver districts and at the officer's discretion in others.
Yes, Snoopy, this is a little off topic but then so are all the posts of other information gathered from scanners. Would rather help others understand what they are hearing. If you hear an engine laying from the fire back to the Humat, they have a pretty good size fire.
cstockmyer said:Can someone explain the difference between a 1 alarm fire and a 4 alarm fire? Dumb question I know sorry.
Also now and then I hear Lola dispatch a unit called a Squint? I thought it was squirt but I heard her the other day say squirt.
jimmnn said:Each department has run cards made up Charles so a first alarm in denver is not the same as a first alarm in aurora or west metro. But typically you have a initial response such as whats called a 2+1+1 that would be 2 engines a truck and a batt chief )typical box in Denver for example, they can then make it high rise or high hazard (such as a hospital or nursing home) and get more units right away or in Denver they have an assignment called a task force before a first alarm.
But back to the metcom example, 10001 would have a 1st alarm assignment in CAD when they put in the address and the number of units and recommended units, same thing when you heard the dispatcher ask Batt 34 while enroute can he upgrade to a 2nd based on numerous calls to 911 then you heard the lola tones for additional "pre-assigned" units on the 2nd alarm by Cad similiar for third etc.
Hope that makes sense.
You might be hearing Quint that's a ladder company, tower ladder in South Metro's example with a pump so it can act as an engine as well onscene.
A quint, or quintuple combination pumper, is a fire service apparatus that serves the dual purpose of an engine and a ladder truck. The name quint is derived from the Latin prefix quinque-, meaning five, and refers to the five functions that a quint provides: pump, water tank, fire hose, aerial device, and ground ladders.
South Metro just put four similiar ladder companies in service and I believe two are tower ladders and two are quints.
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Denver with 900 plus members is the largest. May be the oldest too. The start of fire departments are vague because fire companies in the 1800s would spontaneously appear and just as quickly disappear or get folded into another. I beleive Tabor Hose company 1 was started in 1881 and eventually wound up as part of the Denver Fire Department.cstockmyer said:I have no idea why I am up this early, so don't ask lol. Who is the largest FD in Colorado? Who is the smallest? What is the oldest FD in the state?
kc0kp said:Denver with 900 plus members is the largest. May be the oldest too. The start of fire departments are vague because fire companies in the 1800s would spontaneously appear and just as quickly disappear or get folded into another. I beleive Tabor Hose company 1 was started in 1881 and eventually wound up as part of the Denver Fire Department.
The oldest Firefighters union in Colorado is in Pueblo Local 3, the third IAFF in country behind Pittsburgh and Chicago. Local 5 is in Colorado Springs.
"Air" doesn't explode. The only thing that would cause the tank to fail would be subjecting them to enough enough to cause it to fail. To my knowledge, that has never happened, and really can't happen. Long before the tank would fail one of the supply hoses, or a valve would fail, allowing the air to vent.cstockmyer said:Interesting, thanks!
What keeps the air tanks on the fire fighters back from exploding due to the heat of the fire?
kc0kp said:Denver with 900 plus members is the largest. May be the oldest too. The start of fire departments are vague because fire companies in the 1800s would spontaneously appear and just as quickly disappear or get folded into another. I beleive Tabor Hose company 1 was started in 1881 and eventually wound up as part of the Denver Fire Department.
The oldest Firefighters union in Colorado is in Pueblo Local 3, the third IAFF in country behind Pittsburgh and Chicago. Local 5 is in Colorado Springs.
firescannerbob said:The J.H. Warner Hook and Ladder Company was formed in Pueblo in 1873. http://www.pueblofire.org/history.htm
firescannerbob said:"Air" doesn't explode. The only thing that would cause the tank to fail would be subjecting them to enough enough to cause it to fail. To my knowledge, that has never happened, and really can't happen. Long before the tank would fail one of the supply hoses, or a valve would fail, allowing the air to vent.
Charles, check this out: http://www.denverfirefightersmuseum.org/kc0kp said:Denver with 900 plus members is the largest. May be the oldest too. The start of fire departments are vague because fire companies in the 1800s would spontaneously appear and just as quickly disappear or get folded into another. I beleive Tabor Hose company 1 was started in 1881 and eventually wound up as part of the Denver Fire Department.
jfab said:Charles, check this out: http://www.denverfirefightersmuseum.org/
kc0kp said:Denver with 900 plus members is the largest. May be the oldest too. The start of fire departments are vague because fire companies in the 1800s would spontaneously appear and just as quickly disappear or get folded into another. I beleive Tabor Hose company 1 was started in 1881 and eventually wound up as part of the Denver Fire Department.
The oldest Firefighters union in Colorado is in Pueblo Local 3, the third IAFF in country behind Pittsburgh and Chicago. Local 5 is in Colorado Springs.