BCD325P2/BCD996P2: Getting the radio to move on (timer)

bearcatrp

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Tried setting the delay time to -2 but it still gets hung up on DAT frequency. Won’t move on. Have to lock it out. Hard to do that when driving down the road. Is this the only way it’s supposed to work?
 

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Does it start re-scanning in 2 seconds, then hit that freq again, then 'hang' on it?
All -2 does is start the re-scanning. If there is still a signal there, it will stop (again).
But, after 2 seconds, it should re-scan again, etc, etc....
 

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I created a search for P25 only. I go from bottom to the top. No favorites. I go camping to different places each time I go out camping which is twice a month. Easier to just scan the frequencies. It gets hung up on DAT transmissions. I set the delay last time out a couple weeks ago to -2 to see if it would continue after the delay. It doesn’t. Wish uniden would include a continue after xx amount of time like my Icom R30 has. That works like a charm. Am at a point of just leaving at home or selling it and use my R30. I programmed all the P25 frequencies of the state. Took awhile but got it done. Actually bought the 325P2 for DMR and backup to P25. At home hooked up to my discone it works very good. But on the road driving, it’s becoming a PITA. To hard to hit the lock out button while driving. Figured I would ask in case I missed something reading the easy to read manual. From what I have read, the delay using a negative is the only option.
 

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If you are monitoring a trunked system and you see DAT displayed, it is a normal process. As Upman once explained, the scanner is doing some internal housekeeping.

You may also check the Hold time for the system. It might be Holding/Hanging on the system longer than desirable.

That negative delay on a channel means the scanner should "leave" the conversation after the selected time and listen for something else. For conventional systems, it goes to the next frequency in line. For trunked systems, it resumes monitoring the control channel for the hold time until it expires.
 

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There are two slots for DMR. If one slot is data and the other is voice, you may be able to program it to only monitor a single slot.
 

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I remember Upman also saying in another post about how in the search settings if you have search for NAC, CC, RAN or DCS, CTCSS on it'll then stop. So in the search settings chose NOT to search for NAC, RAN, CC, etc... Try that and see if it helps.

Also, if you use the ProScan software it allows a copy/paste maneuver of a whole list of frequencies. As such, I have also programmed ALL frequencies (without duplicates) from the Colorado DTRS into my scanner and I did so with a copy/paste from Notepad++. BUT! I was able to grab all those frequencies from the saved htm webpage database using some PHP code that could parse the <tr> and <td> html tags into a csv list. If you would like a list of all the P25 frequencies for your state's system I can more than likely do that in about 5 minutes. LOL
 

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I will check to see if I have any of the NAC, CC etc selected and unselect it. I do have proscan so maybe I'll see about getting the entire state into memory. But chances are some of those frequencies are DAT (data) which I am back to square one. Thanks for the tip and all the replies.
 

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You mention searching and scanning. Are you scanning some frequencies you have set in a system or are you searching a range of frequencies you have programmed in Custom Search? Are your targets trunked or conventional or both?
 

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A few thoughts...

I assume you are scanning ARMER while mobile? Well, you are going about it the wrong way.

1) The 325 is a great scanner, but difficult for mobile use.
2) Scanning a range of frequencies is not the right way to do it.
3 ) You have to program ARMER as a system, and the whole of Minnesota will not fit in the 325. The 325 has programming restrictions.
4) You have to use a GPS while mobile. Each site has to be geo-tagged, which is a manual and not an easy process.

5) SDS 200 with GPS set to full database scan would be the best mobile solution.

6) For future reference, when you are scanning a range of frequencies (i.e. UHF business band) and come across a lot of digital control channels, you will have to manually lock out each offender. The negative delay also works great to move past unwanted digital signals.
 

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I will check to see if I have any of the NAC, CC etc selected and unselect it. I do have proscan so maybe I'll see about getting the entire state into memory. But chances are some of those frequencies are DAT (data) which I am back to square one. Thanks for the tip and all the replies.

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Tone/Code Search.

Turn that off. Don't search for those.

That's if you're just SEARCHING. Not scanning a programmed system.
 

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You mention searching and scanning. Are you scanning some frequencies you have set in a system or are you searching a range of frequencies you have programmed in Custom Search? Are your targets trunked or conventional or both?
Scanning a range in a custom search.
 

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A few thoughts...

I assume you are scanning ARMER while mobile? Well, you are going about it the wrong way.

1) The 325 is a great scanner, but difficult for mobile use.
2) Scanning a range of frequencies is not the right way to do it.
3 ) You have to program ARMER as a system, and the whole of Minnesota will not fit in the 325. The 325 has programming restrictions.
4) You have to use a GPS while mobile. Each site has to be geo-tagged, which is a manual and not an easy process.

5) SDS 200 with GPS set to full database scan would be the best mobile solution.

6) For future reference, when you are scanning a range of frequencies (i.e. UHF business band) and come across a lot of digital control channels, you will have to manually lock out each offender. The negative delay also works great to move past unwanted digital signals.
Didn’t think it would fit is why I just scan a range. Really don’t want to use a gps. Will use proscan and see how much armer frequencies will fit. If not allot, will just use my R30. Was able to get all armer frequencies in that with plenty to spare.
 

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What do you mean by "scan a range"? With ARMER, it's a whole different creature and very complicated - especially around the metro area.
 

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Is this the only way it’s supposed to work?
It is supposed to move on and continue scan after 2 sec. I belive it works as it should in other Uniden scanners. When receiving an analog frequency it continues to scan, when receiving a digital TG it continues to scan. When receiving a control channel or other data with no TG info it seems to no longer work and only explanation are that Uniden forgot about that receive mode.

The negative delay function triggers from the squelch from an analog frequency and from a TG on a digital channel. When receiving a data channel or an idle control channel it seems to not trigger the negative delay function. You probably would like to report this to @JoeBearcat including your scanner model type and firmware version.

/Ubbe
 

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If this is a pulsed control channel, it could well be resetting the timer ad-infinitum which would not be solvable.

The best way to scan a trunked system is not using Custom Search.
 

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On any search the delay will apply. If the signal disappears the delay resets. There really is no way to get around that since it would require assuming a signal to be one continuous signal which may or may not be true. Yes, it stinks that pulsed signals exist. Ideally, any non-voice signal would just be ignored, but that is also not possible without evaluation.

It really comes back to the fact that searching is not an effective replacement for scanning. Just lock out any undesired frequencies. That may include data channels, constant carriers, long-winded users, or intermod or other RF interference, or anything you don't want to hear.
 

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Well, looks like my 325P2 just got replaced by my R30 for on the road listening. Thats the nice thing about a receiver, can program hold and continue, which works without a hiccup. Doesn't get hung up on a DAT frequency.
 
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