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blinddog50
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Just a drop in the bucket.
But it's a start.
'bout time the FCC got off it's butt.
But it's a start.
'bout time the FCC got off it's butt.
I have to give the FCC credit for taking some steps to enforce the rules even though they only sent 13 letters since February to individuals, according to this list. I see most of these letters had to do with CB interferece on the 10m band. I would really like to see the FCC take more action against people on the 80m band. Gotta start somewhere I guess.
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N_Jay
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Looks like their a new Sheriff in town!
elk2370bruce
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I'd love to see the new Sheriff go after the nitwits and QRM'ers on 14.275. The Karol-baiting crowd and those two weekend clod kickers who insist that the frequency is theirs should be next on the list.
I absolutely agree. Those guys are pathetic and an annoyance. i hate it when I am just spinning the dial looking for activity and hear a blip go back and tune it in only to realize the freq. I'm on. :twisted:
Maybe now they will
A little slow on the uptake there N_Jay, this is the LAST site where it's been posted and it had to be you. (;->)
Fellers, like it's been said many times on the ham forums please take note of the fact that most of the complaints involve long standing unresolved power line issues. Those involving CB and freebanders are based mostly on neighbor RFI complaints, those deliberately misaligned (tweaked and peaked) transceivers driving poorly designed and constructed high power amplifiers. The FCC closed all the monitoring stations many years ago, every enforcement action except broadcast (they still do routine inspections) is based on complaints backed with sufficient documentation to warrant further investigation.
We had our worries at first she was just another political stooge but she's actually working for a living, simply amazing amid all the corruption run rampant in the FCC these days. As for the junk on the ham bands give the new kid a chance, she has more to contend with than KKKarol hecklers and a few Rednecks on 75M, a LOT more.
Fellers, like it's been said many times on the ham forums please take note of the fact that most of the complaints involve long standing unresolved power line issues. Those involving CB and freebanders are based mostly on neighbor RFI complaints, those deliberately misaligned (tweaked and peaked) transceivers driving poorly designed and constructed high power amplifiers. The FCC closed all the monitoring stations many years ago, every enforcement action except broadcast (they still do routine inspections) is based on complaints backed with sufficient documentation to warrant further investigation.
We had our worries at first she was just another political stooge but she's actually working for a living, simply amazing amid all the corruption run rampant in the FCC these days. As for the junk on the ham bands give the new kid a chance, she has more to contend with than KKKarol hecklers and a few Rednecks on 75M, a LOT more.
A lot of people just do it because the FCC doesn't do anything. A friend tried to get me to get a kicker for my CB, and I just kept on insisting that basically if the FCC gets me I get fined and my license gets taken away, and his answer was always "That's only IF the FCC gets you." or "Here's a question for you: Is the FCC going to get you?".
Some d-bag who happened to be my suitemate last semester kept on insisting that you don't need a license to use ham radio since the FCC doesn't care anymore.
Some d-bag who happened to be my suitemate last semester kept on insisting that you don't need a license to use ham radio since the FCC doesn't care anymore.
blinddog50
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The ham bands are more or less self policing and you also have the auxiliary, kinda' like the official ham police.
Oh yeah, you will get caught.
HAH! We're all in the FCC database and many ham sites link their callsign look up to it, some have an international database also linked to the FCC and it's a very common practice to get a look up the moment contact is made. Guess what happens if things don't match up or there is no listing. Self policing is right, the least that can happen is contact immediately broken, it's illegal to communicate with an unlicensed station. Then you could be reported to the legitimate license holder telling him someone is bootlegging his callsign. If it happens frequently enough and sufficient information gathered to warrant investigation the FCC gets involved. (Cue Dragnet theme.)
Some people are idiots and some like to get others in trouble but is there really any difference? Now go read the latest enforcement actions, you'll catch on pretty quick what it'll cost you. What it won't tell you is any license you hold may be forfeit and you could be denied application... forever. Conviction of a felony and same thing, Uncle Charlie isn't the *****cat some dopes think it is, with every roll of the dice you're taking the chance you'll crap out.
Some people are idiots and some like to get others in trouble but is there really any difference? Now go read the latest enforcement actions, you'll catch on pretty quick what it'll cost you. What it won't tell you is any license you hold may be forfeit and you could be denied application... forever. Conviction of a felony and same thing, Uncle Charlie isn't the *****cat some dopes think it is, with every roll of the dice you're taking the chance you'll crap out.
N1BHH
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About half of the Amateur Auxiliary are poorly trained and think they know everything. They need to get some more training in the rules and regulations. There are a few who are top notch, but the rest are "kilocycle cops" much like the keystone cops.
Yep, self-policing is right! Just the other day I heard someone throw out a call-sign I hadn't heard on the local repeater. Since I was already logged in on QRZ I quickly checked for that call-sign and it didn't come up with anything. I then checked on the FCC web-site and found out that the call-sign had been cancelled.
I never did answer or try to contact that station but I did let the repeater Trustee know about it and was asked to listen for that staion again. I haven't heard anymore from that station so I guess he either moved on to something else or he may have been "busted" by someone else on another repeater somewhere.
N1BHH
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You need to be careful that you get the call correct when you hear it. Some guys talk so fast they sound ridiculous. A rule of thumb is get the correct call sign before any action.
You're right and I heard him repeat the call-sign several times so I was sure of what he said.
So, basically any Ham licensed person can sqwak to the FCC about power lines making noise and the FCC gets to go fine the daylights out of the Line owners? What a crock of [edit]!
I know I aint making no friends by stating this, but Ham Radio Operators seem to bicker about dumb stuff!
There were only 3 complaints files against Texas Companies, One of which is reasonably close to me. Which is in a very rural environment, these co-op's have limited budgets where as Ham are only limited by wives and home owners insurance. If a power line is radiating too much noise, Raise your Antenna, Move your antenna or politic to have lines buried. but to file a complaint with the FCC is ridicules! But I know, the co-op is in violation of FCC law if they are causing harmful or just noisy interference.
with regards to power lines, there is Much more pull on the lines with more and more people moving about, but Electric companies are just as strapped for cash when it comes to laying in a new rout of lines, look at both side of this, not just yours! Then some hams (yes some) will hop on HF and moan about it, talk about Politics, religion, Races and hate organizations and NO FCC comes knocking on their door telling them to knock it off and pay up!
Yeah, I'm wrong for voicing my opinion, Y'all got your view of this, the Professional Communications folks have theirs, and that's all that matters anymore I guess. Then again maybe I'm looking at this all wrong, Maybe I should get me a ticket so I can file complaints and get the wires off my tree limbs and put under ground and boost my property value.
I know I aint making no friends by stating this, but Ham Radio Operators seem to bicker about dumb stuff!
There were only 3 complaints files against Texas Companies, One of which is reasonably close to me. Which is in a very rural environment, these co-op's have limited budgets where as Ham are only limited by wives and home owners insurance. If a power line is radiating too much noise, Raise your Antenna, Move your antenna or politic to have lines buried. but to file a complaint with the FCC is ridicules! But I know, the co-op is in violation of FCC law if they are causing harmful or just noisy interference.
with regards to power lines, there is Much more pull on the lines with more and more people moving about, but Electric companies are just as strapped for cash when it comes to laying in a new rout of lines, look at both side of this, not just yours! Then some hams (yes some) will hop on HF and moan about it, talk about Politics, religion, Races and hate organizations and NO FCC comes knocking on their door telling them to knock it off and pay up!
Yeah, I'm wrong for voicing my opinion, Y'all got your view of this, the Professional Communications folks have theirs, and that's all that matters anymore I guess. Then again maybe I'm looking at this all wrong, Maybe I should get me a ticket so I can file complaints and get the wires off my tree limbs and put under ground and boost my property value.
I like the ones about the CB'ers with over-powered stations! I hear people over here using power in upwards of 100 to a kilowatt! I need to go hunting 
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N_Jay
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Well, yes, but why a crock.
They have the same rights to complain about "Harmful Interference" as a TV watcher, a licensed Part-90 user, etc?
Why should they not?
Really?
Why would you define harmful interference as "Dumb Stuff"?
It seems about 90% of the rules are written around defining, eliminating, or minimizing the opportunity for "Harmful Interference".
I don't get your point?
Ok? (Still don't get the connection)
No, but would be helpful if you expressed your point a little clearer.
Wrong.
Their view is just as valid as any other part of the public.
Do you have view on this?
Maybe you are?
Or maybe you are misunderstanding the issue?
MaxTracker;1078693Maybe I should get me a ticket so I can file complaints and get the wires off my tree limbs and put under ground and boost my property value.[/QUOTE said:
James_Bond_007
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I like the ones about the CB'ers with over-powered stations! I hear people over here using power in upwards of 100 to a kilowatt! I need to go hunting
how about the dude that is heard all over the USA and mexico day and night like he is sitting next to you.
he has to be running major power. talking 3 phase ballpark here.
same guy i have heard on channel 6 for the last 20 years.
he should have been a candidate for a bust long time ago, but he is still going on and on.
N_Jay, why bother to reply? The poor guy is suffering under several gross misconceptions and the nub of the matter becomes apparent when he contradicts himself. Maybe he should have taken the time to figure out that utility companies so strapped for capital are in no position to bury the lines and no political pressure will ever be brought to bear in any case, hams should wield such influence. (;->) Heck, he didn't even take the time to notice those are long time offenders with the FCC and every other avenue of approach was exhausted long before complaints were even made to the FCC as "the court of last resort" before launching into his rant.
Well James, ask yourself why if this offender goes on and on for so long hasn't M put you on assignment? Maybe I shouldn't let the cat out of the bag but the thing is unless there are harmful interference complaints backed up with sufficient evidence to open an investigation MI5 has bigger villains to go after. IMO, nothing they do on CB constitutes harmful interference as long as it doesn't harm OTHER services, could it be the FCC and I are in agreement?
Well James, ask yourself why if this offender goes on and on for so long hasn't M put you on assignment? Maybe I shouldn't let the cat out of the bag but the thing is unless there are harmful interference complaints backed up with sufficient evidence to open an investigation MI5 has bigger villains to go after. IMO, nothing they do on CB constitutes harmful interference as long as it doesn't harm OTHER services, could it be the FCC and I are in agreement?
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