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tekshogun

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I guess I'll chime in too... But first off, I am being civil, so don't take any of this personally.

So, basically any Ham licensed person can sqwak to the FCC about power lines making noise and the FCC gets to go fine the daylights out of the Line owners? What a crock of [edit]!

Unless the offense is blatant and obvious (such as operating illegally on public safety channels), the FCC gives operators/organizations an opportunity to fix the problem(s). Anyone, licensed or unlicensed, can and should contact the FCC about violations. If the airwaves are not protected and measures taken to reduce preventable interference or illegal use, then when those frequencies are needed, they may be unavailable. All services and the subsequent licensees of these services should protect their primary operating bands or else it may be rendered useless or lost to run-a-muck users or lost altogether. Essentially why the FCC dropped the CB license requirement and expanded the number of channels. Yet, people still violate the rules blatantly.

I know I aint making no friends by stating this, but Ham Radio Operators seem to bicker about dumb stuff!

Not all ham radio operators bicker about the dumb stuff. Across all major radio services (the business pool of land radio, commercial/maritime radio, etc), you get the same kinds of people. You also find these people in the world of information technology and the various disciplines of engineering. I know quite a few radio engineers and some of them know, legitimately, more than most about commercial and ham radio and radio in general, while others don't. In both of these groups are those that are as nice as can be and will not bicker and will be happy to teach/inform you what ever you need that they can help with. Then you have others that, the moment they disagree with someone, rather than properly inform they spark up an argument, get offended, or give up (such as quiting a club, or taking down their repeater so no one can use it).

There were only 3 complaints files against Texas Companies, One of which is reasonably close to me. Which is in a very rural environment, these co-op's have limited budgets where as Ham are only limited by wives and home owners insurance. If a power line is radiating too much noise, Raise your Antenna, Move your antenna or politic to have lines buried. but to file a complaint with the FCC is ridicules! But I know, the co-op is in violation of FCC law if they are causing harmful or just noisy interference.

The Enforcement Bureau letter states that the complainant has attempted to resolve the issue through other means, particularly, the company it self. If interference is caused by faulty equipment, it must be dealt with. Raising an antenna, moving it, and being political (which is perhaps the unsuccessful attempts being referred to) may not alway solve the problem. Should a disaster happen somewhere and ham radio is the only operating communications system available (this happens often) and they need a repeater site near that source of interference, then what are they to do? Every situation is not the same nor are they always easily resolved.

with regards to power lines, there is Much more pull on the lines with more and more people moving about, but Electric companies are just as strapped for cash when it comes to laying in a new rout of lines, look at both side of this, not just yours! Then some hams (yes some) will hop on HF and moan about it, talk about Politics, religion, Races and hate organizations and NO FCC comes knocking on their door telling them to knock it off and pay up!

If a power company can not afford to keep their equipment in properly working order then they don't need to be operating it. Same goes for ANYONE operating or maintaining electrical and electronic equipment. The keyword is properly. The letters do not specify exactly what the issue is. The FCC is giving the utility the opportunity to find out and report back to them and even notes the ARRL as a source for information/help to find the problem. If the problem is found to be unavoidable, such as in the case of a BPL test site (being used as an example) then there is nothing that may be done but if a transformer has faults such as exposed conductors that should be shielded, then that should be fixed or if non-spec equipment is being used it should be removed and replaced with spec equipment. Even if a co-op or organization is strapped for cash, that is NO excuse for cutting corners. That is a safety issue.
As for CB'ers and ham operators that get on the air and talk dirty talk, some of these people are caught and some are not. The FCC rarely listens for violations. The Amateur radio service is mostly self-policed and if it is not policed by someone, the abuse will continue. Not everyone polices violators but some do and some are caught, fined, or stripped of their licenses.

Yeah, I'm wrong for voicing my opinion, Y'all got your view of this, the Professional Communications folks have theirs, and that's all that matters anymore I guess. Then again maybe I'm looking at this all wrong, Maybe I should get me a ticket so I can file complaints and get the wires off my tree limbs and put under ground and boost my property value.

You're not wrong for voicing your opinions. Never say that. Get your ham ticket or don't get it. If preventable interference is occurring in a licensee's primary bands of operation then it should be dealt with. If you are a "professional communications folk" and someone's faulty lines are interfering with your means of communication then I surely hope that you would file a complaint otherwise you will lose control. The world of radio communications is getting more and more of a minefield. We ham's don't know when/if we'll lose our precious bands to companies that want to provide this service or that service. Anyone remember BPL?
 
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I wonder if someone would be so quick to call it "dumb stuff" if he had spent $4000 on a stereo system only to have AC line noise or RF interference make it useless?

It seems to be a matter of who's ox is being gored.

I've learned that people like to act intelligent and say profound things to impress others without knowing anything about the subject matter.

My opinion, like it or not....
 

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A possible solution

I'd love to see the new Sheriff go after the nitwits and QRM'ers on 14.275. The Karol-baiting crowd and those two weekend clod kickers who insist that the frequency is theirs should be next on the list.

I know not of the QRM and nitwits of which you speak. I have not had an antenna up for 20 in a couple of years now. But I'd like to share with you a possibe solution, if these "clod kickers" are giving out their callsigns. The below was actually done about 6 years ago to a ham that tended to swear and cuss on 80.

Tape the conversations. Look up his QTH. Send an audio CD to his neighbors and to the city or township offices they live in. Loudmouths always seem to have a good, strong signal, which means they have a big antenna that the neighborhood considers an eyesore. In the instance I'm mentioning, the neighbors went nuts after they heard the foul language, and the township gave him so much grief that he took his antennas down. True story.
 

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and your profile says

and your profile says you're
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media and 911 dispatcher trainee,Red Cross diaster (sic) response team"


and by the way shot on site means to shoot at a particular location--did you mean shot on sight?? as shot when seen??

sheesh--nuff said
 
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Shot on Sight?

Then you are not going to like working with the Red Cross.
Half your disaster team is going to be ham radio ops.

Oh, and who is going to cover for you when the 911 radio system crashes after a disaster?
Ask some of the dispatchers who have gone through ice storms, hurricanes and tornadoes.

"It is better to simply be considered a fool than to speak and remove any doubt." - Abraham Lincoln
 

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Nonsense post deleted also edited the quotes in the other threads.

I wish certain people would have respect for each other on these boards.:roll:
 
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14.275 mess..

That would be a possibility! - But no profanity (except from angry people being QRM'ed on either side by the splatter) noted..

He runs endless tapes of "ham" interviews, advertises CD's for sale, uses a cruddy rig with 60-Hz hum and is ostensibly located in Maine, call sign well known, (K1-something?) and has declared 14.275 his personal "Beacon" frequency to validate his constant run off at the mouth.

A sad thing.. Nobody "OWNS" a ham frequency and there even is a current Memorial Special-Call station (K6M) running right now that mistakenly picked 14.275 as the home frequency for the 20 meter contact frequency and is being buried by his drivel.. :mad:

But there are angry or hostile exchanges on every band these days, it appears, so c'est la vie.. or is that C'est la Guerre? :(

What ever happened to the Ham Brotherhood of politeness and helping/respecting each other? :roll:

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I know not of the QRM and nitwits of which you speak. I have not had an antenna up for 20 in a couple of years now. But I'd like to share with you a possibe solution, if these "clod kickers" are giving out their callsigns. The below was actually done about 6 years ago to a ham that tended to swear and cuss on 80.

Tape the conversations. Look up his QTH. Send an audio CD to his neighbors and to the city or township offices they live in. Loudmouths always seem to have a good, strong signal, which means they have a big antenna that the neighborhood considers an eyesore. In the instance I'm mentioning, the neighbors went nuts after they heard the foul language, and the township gave him so much grief that he took his antennas down. True story.
 
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