Got ham operator messing up my tv.

[AK9R]

Folks, the OP hasn't logged back into the forum since he started this thread. Maybe it's time to wind this down.

 

[jim202]

The first thing you need to understand is he doesn't have to do anything for you because he is operating within the license the FCC issues.

Wait just a minute before you go any further with that statement. You need to go back and read the part of the rules and regulations that regulate the ham radio operation. In a brief summary, I believe that the FCC states that the ham radio operator will cooperate in resolving any interference that may come from his transmitter that is effecting the TV set. Not the exact wording, but that is what the effect of it is.

The next thing you need to understand is your TV is called a Part 15 device by the FCC and has to accept interference from other services because the manufacturer has chosen to go cheap on not shielding the TV from outside interference. Now, here's the good news -- if you approach your neighbor with the right attitude, he likely wants to help you enjoy your TV without his signal and may already know how to help you fix that because he did it for himself in his own home. An honest inquiry and a good attitude will go miles in getting your problem solved.

Be a little careful just what kind of advice is being given here. The use of a low pass filter on the ham transmitter is a good start. You really don't want the FCC knocking on your door because you didn't "Cooperate" in trying to resolve the interference problem.

 

[AK9R]

The rules are readily available. No need to guess or speculate.

§97.121 Restricted operation.
(a) If the operation of an amateur station causes general interference to the reception of transmissions from stations operating in the domestic broadcast service when receivers of good engineering design, including adequate selectivity characteristics, are used to receive such transmissions, and this fact is made known to the amateur station licensee, the amateur station shall not be operated during the hours from 8 p.m. to 10:30 p.m., local time, and on Sunday for the additional period from 10:30 a.m. until 1 p.m., local time, upon the frequency or frequencies used when the interference is created.

(b) In general, such steps as may be necessary to minimize interference to stations operating in other services may be required after investigation by the FCC.

This may also apply:

§97.307 Emission standards.
(c) All spurious emissions from a station transmitter must be reduced to the greatest extent practicable. If any spurious emission, including chassis or power line radiation, causes harmful interference to the reception of another radio station, the licensee of the interfering amateur station is required to take steps to eliminate the interference, in accordance with good engineering practice.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

More here.

Bill Becomes a Law

The FCC was pushing the manufacturers to fix their receivers, but it was an uphill battle. Can you actually buy a commercial broadcast receiver "of good engineering design" at retail outlets? Funny I never see any receiver specs printed on the box.

Imagine as a radio guy, my frustration buying my first cellphone to use out in the "boonies" where I once lived.

I don't see any discussion about situations where the FCC regulates interference to other consumer devices like computer monitors, amplified audio devices (sound bars) and such. Probably because they normally do not directly use a licensed frequency.

 

[m42duster]

Put a toroid on your TV's power cord.

 

[wb6uqa]

Ham TV interference

Switch to cable or sat.

 

[m42duster]

Switch to cable or sat.

Can still get common mode interference with cable and satellite.

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[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Switch to cable or sat.

Why should he have to pay $700 to $1500 A year for TV when he can get it with an antenna?

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[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Put a toroid on your TV's power cord.

That might be an easy enough fix,

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[Lauri-CoyoteFrostbite]

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The OP could always suggest to his neighbor what I suggest to any of mine when the TVI gets to be too much- Pick up a good book.
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Sorry, smart aleck answer.

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But I do agree with W9BU; the original poster threw this out and hasn't been heard from since- his level of interest??
So what--- he did elicit quite a bunch of good ideas, and a lively discussion, No?....
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Time to move on ....
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Lauri

 

[m42duster]

My idea is a goosd one.

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[majoco]

Yup - for all we know the problem has been fixed.

 

[Murphy625]

The ending of this book sucks.

Would be nice if OP returned with an update.

 

[Movieman990]

Maybe the OP is "SK", or as I have been advised for speaking in plain English on the 2 meter band...maybe he DIED, in the last 7 weeks.

I looked at his profile (as I see others have) and I'm wondering if any of the other 9 last visitors there actually sent him a private message or used the many call sign lookup sites to get his address and send him an old fashioned letter.

Not that it's anyone's "responsibility" under any FCC regulation to do so.

 

[frankdrebbin]

Reading this thread reminds me of when I lived in another town 25 years ago. Somewhere in the neighborhood was a ham and whenever he transmitted it came blasting thru my TV, any radios on or off, stereo speakers with it off, and my cordless phone whether I was on it or not. Drove me bonkers and I never did find out who it was as I couldn't find any suspect aerials around me. It did eventually stop. It was garbled and what I heard sounded like "calling all Indians". A friend was over once when the ham started xmitting and my buddy heard that coming thru everything and his eyes got big as golf balls and literally ran out the door.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Reading this thread reminds me of when I lived in another town 25 years ago. Somewhere in the neighborhood was a ham and whenever he transmitted it came blasting thru my TV, any radios on or off, stereo speakers with it off, and my cordless phone whether I was on it or not. Drove me bonkers and I never did find out who it was as I couldn't find any suspect aerials around me. It did eventually stop. It was garbled and what I heard sounded like "calling all Indians".

When I lived in Chicago, one year, shortly after I plugged in my Christmas tree lights, I started hearing a hams SSB transmissions through my stereo. Unplugging the lights the interference stopped. Pretty cool.

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[bighanded]

not laughing at your situation.. I know it's frustratiing..but when I saw the title of this thread, I had to smile.

back in the late 70s... I was in college...no such thing as cell phones...my new sweetheart lived across the parking lot, up the hill in the girl's dorm..you could look out your dorm window and see girls perched in the end of hall window talking on the only payphone on the floor...so it was always busy and you couldn't call in.

I went down to the store and bought a pair of 1 watt midlands..they came with a ch 19 and I loaded 11 in it..
the agreement was, if we were in our room, we'd power up the rigs (wall wart power) and that way we could call each other...and we'd enjoy mushy talk etc as much as we wanted.

it was a month later than one of the guys in a drom room a floor below laughingly commented that he was really tired of hearing our mush bleeding over his stereo....we were embarrassed of course....never occurred to me that we'd be heard ...back then, some of the local serious CB folks had the big antennas strapped up a tall pine tree, power mics in the cars with huge whips etc...you knew them ...Queen B...GrassCutter, etc...so we stayed off their channels..and at the time 11 was dead quiet in that small town...and yes..we even got our CB license (KAEG2175)....sorry about your TV experience with the neighbor...but thanks for bringing a smile of rememberance back to my face. ET

 

[PrivatelyJeff]

not laughing at your situation.. I know it's frustratiing..but when I saw the title of this thread, I had to smile.

back in the late 70s... I was in college...no such thing as cell phones...my new sweetheart lived across the parking lot, up the hill in the girl's dorm..you could look out your dorm window and see girls perched in the end of hall window talking on the only payphone on the floor...so it was always busy and you couldn't call in.

I went down to the store and bought a pair of 1 watt midlands..they came with a ch 19 and I loaded 11 in it..
the agreement was, if we were in our room, we'd power up the rigs (wall wart power) and that way we could call each other...and we'd enjoy mushy talk etc as much as we wanted.

it was a month later than one of the guys in a drom room a floor below laughingly commented that he was really tired of hearing our mush bleeding over his stereo....we were embarrassed of course....never occurred to me that we'd be heard ...back then, some of the local serious CB folks had the big antennas strapped up a tall pine tree, power mics in the cars with huge whips etc...you knew them ...Queen B...GrassCutter, etc...so we stayed off their channels..and at the time 11 was dead quiet in that small town...and yes..we even got our CB license (KAEG2175)....sorry about your TV experience with the neighbor...but thanks for bringing a smile of rememberance back to my face. ET

Don’t leave us hanging? What happened between you two.

 

[bighanded]

LOL....just celebrated our 41st wedding annivesary in August...4 kids...8 grandkids...and all thanks to that lil 1 watt Midland walky-talky

 

[PrivatelyJeff]

So your saying it is POSSIBLE to woo the ladies with a radio? From what I understand it’s usually the opposite. Lol

Congratulations though on all the years! ����