Grand Canyon emergency services ????

[zerg901]

Does anyone know what radio channels are used by the structural fire units at Grand Canyon National Park?

iirc Grand Canyon has 2 or more 'fire departments'

the wildland fire department has 1 or 2 helos and a couple of wildland fire engines ... they are staffed fulltime in the summers ... they apparently have their own radio net

the structural fire department has 1 engine + 1 rescue + 1 concession engine at the south rim ... and ... 1 engine at the east end ... and ... 1 engine at the north rim ... all of these units are staffed by 'on call' staff ... unknown what radio channels they are heard on

for EMS iirc there are 1 or 2 contract ambulances on the south rim and 1 NPS ambulance east and 1 NPS ambulance north ... maybe they use different radio channels from each other ... maybe south rim uses med net and north rim uses law net etc

the Park "fire" helos are also used for EMS work so maybe they are dispatched on the wildfire channel but operate on the med channel or tac channel when doing ems or sar work

there is also a SAR truck on the south rim ... maybe the north rim also ... maybe they use the law net

 

[a417]

wouldn't this be more appropriate in the AZ forum?

 

[Binger511]

wouldn't this be more appropriate in the AZ forum?

Could be either or I think. Grand Canyon is a federal entity as much as it is in Arizona.

OP, looks like this might have your answer.

Grand Canyon National Park

Frequency	License	Type	Tone	Alpha Tag	Description	Mode	Tag
170.38750		RM	293 NAC	GCNP-LN SW	Law Net - South Rim - Hopi Point	P25E	Law Dispatch
171.53750		RM	293 NAC	GCNP-LW N	Law Net - North Rim - CC Hill	P25E	Law Dispatch
171.67500		RM	293 NAC	GCNP-LN SE	Law Net - East Rim - Desert View	P25E	Law Dispatch
171.72500		RM	193 NAC	GCNP VT LAW	VT Ridge Law (Stand Alone, Not Networked)	P25	Law Dispatch
172.11250		RM	293 NAC	GCNP-FN N	Fire Net - North Rim - CC Hill	P25	Fire Dispatch
172.42500		RM	293 NAC	GCNP-FN SE	Fire Net - South Rim - Hopi Point	P25	Fire Dispatch
172.52500		RM	293 NAC	GCNP-FN SE	Fire Net - East Rim - Desert View	P25	Fire Dispatch
172.62500		RM	93 NAC	GCNP-FireEma	Mt Emma Fire (Stand Alone, Not Networked)	P25	Fire Dispatch
172.67500		RM	193 NAC	GCNP-VT Fire	VT Ridge Fire (Stand Alone, Not Networked)	P25	Fire Dispatch
161.62500		BM	156.7 PL	GCNP - WFCw	Wildland Fire Crew	FMN	Fire-Tac
171.65000		RM	293 NAC	GCNP-MN SW	Med Net - North Rim - CC Hill	P25	EMS Dispatch
171.77500		RM	293 NAC	GCNP-MN SW	Med Net - South Rim - Hopi Point	P25	EMS Dispatch
172.13750		RM	293 NAC	GCNP-MN SE	Med Net - East Rim - Desert View	P25	EMS Dispatch
172.43750		RM	93 NAC	GCNP-Mt Emma	Mt Emma Med (Stand Alone, Not Networked)	P25	Federal
169.16250		RM	293 NAC	GCNP-TN N	TAC Net - North Rim - CC Hill	P25	Federal
169.77500		RM	293 NAC	GCNP-TN SW	TAC Net - South Rim - Hopi Point	P25	Federal
169.98750		RM	293 NAC	GCNP-TN SE	TAC Net - East Rim - Desert View	P25	Federal
163.10000		RM	CSQ	GCNP-Deck Op	South Rim Helibase "Deck" Operations	FMN	Federal
169.62500		RM	293 NAC	GCNP-AN N	Admin Net - North Rim - CC Hill	P25	Federal
169.65000		RM	293 NAC	GCNP-AN SW	Admin Net - South Rim - Hopi Point	P25	Federal
169.72500		RM	293 NAC	GCNP-AN SE	Admin Net - East Rim - Desert View	P25	Federal
461.05000	WPNQ408	BM	71.9 PL	GCNP-ShutBus	Shuttle Busses	FMN	Transportation
172.57500		RM	400 NAC	GCNP Mt Elden	Mt Elden	P25	Federal

 

[a417]

Could be either or I think. Grand Canyon is a federal entity as much as it is in Arizona.

I agree, it could go either way. I suggested Arizona forum a it would seem likely to get someone in a geographical region forum who might have specific local knowledge of the ellipsis laden questions as posted.

...maybe.

 

[zerg901]

99% sure that the fire net listed in the RRDB is the wildland fire net ... not sure what channels are used by structural fire and sar etc

there is a 2018 annual report for the 'Emergency Services division' on GC website ... structural fire is listed with SAR and EMS ... wildland fire is not mentioned

also found some info about Xanterra FD ... they seem to have 2 firefighters and a captain .. plus Engine 22 at the South Rim fire station ... and they have their own fire/security radio channel

wildcad shows GC Wildland Fire has 3 engines, helo, and water tender on south rim ... and 1 engine on north rim

the total count seems to be ... 4 structural engines, 4 wildland engines, 1 rescue, 2 sar trucks, 1 or 2 helos, 1 wildland water tender and 4 ambulances across the entire park

 

[es93546]

99% sure that the fire net listed in the RRDB is the wildland fire net ... not sure what channels are used by structural fire and sar etc

there is a 2018 annual report for the 'Emergency Services division' on GC website ... structural fire is listed with SAR and EMS ... wildland fire is not mentioned

also found some info about Xanterra FD ... they seem to have 2 firefighters and a captain .. plus Engine 22 at the South Rim fire station ... and they have their own fire/security radio channel

wildcad shows GC Wildland Fire has 3 engines, helo, and water tender on south rim ... and 1 engine on north rim

the total count seems to be ... 4 structural engines, 4 wildland engines, 1 rescue, 2 sar trucks, 1 or 2 helos, 1 wildland water tender and 4 ambulances across the entire park

Crews don't show up on an apparatus list. Fires at Grand Canyon are often not accessible by apparatus. I don't know how many or the locations of fire hand crews at Grand Canyon anymore. I used to as I worked in fire management on the Kaibab National Forest, which borders the park at both the north rim and south rim. I took some training courses with some members of those crews, but decades have passed since that time.

 

[es93546]

In the eastern U.S. it seems as though, no matter what state, federal frequencies are discussed in the Federal Forum. In the west we usually put posts like this one in the individual states, so this would post would be more effective there.