GRE PSR-500 Post Release Thread

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kikito

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bonus1331 said:
Again, I think we can all agree that these are only opinions, but the scanlists did not work for me; so I took your advice and sold.
Uniden's DMA is MY preference.

Now that I remembered, I ran into the same problem with the BCD396T. It only allows 20 groups and 200 TGs per system. And those 20 groups (sounds familiar?) you have to split among only 10 Group quick-keys. Yes, you can duplicate systems and so on but the way I *ideally* wanted to arrange it, not only it takes for ever to setup but I was using almost 50% of the memory just for our statewide system (Yes, even for our "little" state/town as some refer to it, we got over 12,000 users and hundreds of TGs already and growing just in this system.) And then, once you have it setup, it's another pain to keep all the duplicated systems and TGs updated across the radio, especially if you don't have a computer handy.

Another pain is enabling and disabling systems and groups on the fly. Especially Groups and waiting for a particular system to become active and then press and hold Func + whatever number. That is if you can remember what's what among the dozens of systems and groups. Or you have to go through the menus and while driving or something else is not the most practical or safe thing to do. That's another reason why, if GRE adds more scanlists, I hope it's plain scanlists like now with no sub-groups. Otherwise, I can't see a practical approach to enable/disable stuff. See, I can rant too about what I don't like and I could go on about many other short-comings and limitations of the Uniden. I chose to keep the BCD396T and work around all of it because after all it's a great scanner too.

Imagine that, I guess Uniden's DMA doesn't work that well for everybody either....

I guess Uniden got the message eventually and upped the TGs (a little) and allowed "sharing" of TGs across systems HOWEVER, not in the current model BUT in a new one (BCD996T). Seems to me they "could" implement the TG sharing feature in the BCD396T with a firmware update, even at the cost of losing memory or something, but they haven't done so nor I think they will. Most likely in next handheld model! :evil: ;)
 

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Talkgroup "sharing" is a great idea. I would love to have set of talk groups that I could share across TSYS objects. LCRA, TXU, and even Austin/Travis/WillCo could definitely be programmed that way. Seems like it would well for many other wide area systems. Yes, I know the 996 does this (manually), but I am sold on the 500 and refuse to step back.

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I think the 500 already does talkgroup sharing. Any scannable object can be a member of any scanlist(s).
 

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PSR-500 memory management

Correct! If you don't like any scanner sell it.

I sold my 396 the day after the 500 came out. Couldn't live with a deaf scanner any longer.
The 500 blew away the 396 out of the box. Sad to say so does the Pro-2006 on 800MHz.


Memory management makes much more sense in the PSR500. No waste at all. I just can't understand why people that say they sold their GRE scanner bother to hang out in a GRE forum?

Oh well still a GRE fan here. Guess that's why I hang out here. No sense in posting on the Uniden site if I don't have one.

Les



bonus1331 said:
I think the point is, why should we have to consolidate when there is already a product that allows us not to? (396, 330, 15, 996).

Again, I think we can all agree that these are only opinions, but the scanlists did not work for me; so I took your advice and sold.
Uniden's DMA is MY preference.
 

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detroit780 said:
I just can't understand why people that say they sold their GRE scanner bother to hang out in a GRE forum?

Oh well still a GRE fan here. Guess that's why I hang out here. No sense in posting on the Uniden site if I don't have one.

Les

Yep, I was wondering the same thing.....

I even unsubscribe from scanner lists that I still own but don't use often like my BC246T. Oh well, to each his own and I guess it's their right.....
 

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Programming of North Brunswick, New Jersey

I noticed that north brunswick new jersey middlesex county on the rr database shows 4 freq stating apco.
how do I program this with out any orther parameters in the psr500. The township is not listed as a trunked system like others with the county as you will notice.
Thanks Frank
 
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williafa said:
I noticed that north brunswick new jersey middlesex county on the rr database shows 4 freq stating apco.
how do I program this with out any orther parameters in the psr500. The township is not listed as a trunked system like others with the county as you will notice.
Thanks Frank
They are programmed as conventional objests. Only the two green freqs need to be programmed.
 

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Russell said:
Talkgroup "sharing" is a great idea. I would love to have set of talk groups that I could share across TSYS objects. LCRA, TXU, and even Austin/Travis/WillCo could definitely be programmed that way. Seems like it would well for many other wide area systems. Yes, I know the 996 does this (manually), but I am sold on the 500 and refuse to step back.

I looked at the Austin/Travis system, which appears to include University of Texas, although I didn't figure out who LCRA was. I'm not sure what 'talkgroup sharing' is in the 996T, but I think that the PSR-500 has what you're looking for.

This system can be set up in the PSR-500 as a single multisite "p25 auto" TSYS with all the listed TG's attached. Just enter the 32 CC's that you want the most in your TSYS object. Since this is APCO 25, the trunking tables should automatically populate. I'm sure that the development team would love to know how things go between the 800, 700 and 150 MHz sites.

FMON and some others have been experimenting with the use of multisite in an even more fragmented crossband system here in Virginia, but it's not APCO-25 and I don't know if what they've discovered about having a crossband TSYS would help you. Your situation looks tailor-made to test the radio in a huge regional APCO25 system, and you may not need to do anything special for your crossband performance.

Let us know how it goes...

73/Allen (N4JRI)
 
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n4jri said:
I'm sure that the development team would love to know how things go between the 800, 700 and 150 MHz sites.

Your situation looks tailor-made to test the radio in a huge regional APCO25 system, and you may not need to do anything special for your crossband performance.

It worked just fine with our "tri-band" P25 system up here with the Pro-96. I haven't had a chance recently to go back to the areas with mixed 155/700/800MHz sites but I don't see a big deal or a problem tracking those. The radio probably sees each one as individual sites anyway.

EDIT: Let me add that I know the Pro-96 doesn't do 700MHz but it did fine between the 800MHz and 155MHz sites. And so does the PSR-500.
 
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in sweeper mode, when i change it from all bands to public safety bands, the scanner occasionally locks up. Turning it off and then on again displays "waiting for dsp." I then have to reload everything. Pretty annoying when it happens.

Also ever since the day I got it, I noticed that about 30% of the time when adjusting the volume the potentiometer (the knob) grabs, hooks, or gets stuck real quickly (however you want to say it) at around the 9 or 10 o'clock position (from lookin at the top of the scanner with the front toward you). It's not really a big deal, but it definitely is noticeable when it happens. It does get kinda annoying sometimes.



I think the overall build quality of the scanner straight out sucks. I have 20 dollar walkie talkies that feel more solid than this 500 dollar scanner. When people screw up their psr500, i dont know why they call it a brick. Its more like a..cigarette box..or something.

The decode is much better than any other scanner I have though. I never knew our statewide system here in VA (STARS) was as active as it is. Very nice!

The interface is a trade off between other scanners- mainly the 396t. This scanner has some pluses (multisite, stuff like that), but the other one definitely has its pluses too. I think that they should definitely include subscanlists or subgroups. If that really makes it too difficult for others (such as when driving, etc as stated) then dont use the subgroups! Its as easy as that. Just dont assign them to any subgroups or just leave them all active if its that big of a problem turning them on and off. That would be the exact same as having no subgroups at all.
 

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rvawatch said:
in sweeper mode, when i change it from all bands to public safety bands, the scanner occasionally locks up. Turning it off and then on again displays "waiting for dsp." I then have to reload everything. Pretty annoying when it happens....

Yeah that happened to me over the weekend and I'm almost freaked out, thought I broke my scanner... Hopefully they fix that issue soon...
 

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williafa said:
Do these two freq go in as conventional p-25 or what. These are a digital freq. are't they.
Thanks
They are APCO 25 which is digital and on a Non-trunk freq they are then conventional. Programmed the same. KSP has two hundred + of these.
 

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waiting for DSP lockup issue

I had the same issue happen the day after my PSR500 arrived and man was I ticked off when my new toy stopped wanting to play!
I was trying to lock out a Signal Sweeper hit and Hit the F1 key and it then went into
zombie mode aka "waiting for DSP"
I emailed GRE support and they recommended pressing FUNC, then PGM after turning the unit on, then reloading your backup file from a V folder, which luckily I had at that time

I sure hope a future firmware upgrade will fix this....


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rvawatch said:
in sweeper mode, when i change it from all bands to public safety bands, the scanner occasionally locks up. Turning it off and then on again displays "waiting for dsp." I then have to reload everything. Pretty annoying when it happens.
I was about to post asking for more info on how to replicate this problem since I've never had it happen to me or could replicate it. Well, I finally got the radio to do it.

It seems to happen more often when you start enabling more bands (or at least 8 of them) other than the default 5 that are active when you first go into Sweeper mode. And then toggling the SPCL and/or BAND softkey options within a couple of seconds of having enable a band. Especially during the brief time the band range is still showing (i.e. 108-137). After it locks up, I also get the "waiting for DSP" message when I turn it off and on. Then I have to do a 0 + 1 reset to get it going again.

I guess it hadn't happened to me before because I was always using the Sweeper mode setup as an object to be scanned while the rest of my other scanning stuff was also active. In other words, it happens only when using Sweeper mode exclusively by pressing Func + Scan.

And that's my analysis and troubleshooting input for GRE. ;)
 

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Sweeper lock-up

kikito said:
After it locks up, I also get the "waiting for DSP" message when I turn it off and on. Then I have to do a 0 + 1 reset to get it going again.
You can preserve all of your programming (objects) by doing a 0 + 2 reset instead of 0 + 1.

0 + 2: Initializes GLOB and FUNC + GLOB settings, and seems to clear some power-on defaults.

0 + 1: Everything initialized as in 0 + 2, plus all objects are cleared.

EDIT: If you have a V-Scanner folder "backup" of your current programming (GLOB, FUNC+GLOB, and objects), then either 0+1 or 0+2 will work. You'll just have to re-load from the V-Scanner folder.
 
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