GRE PSR-800 Post Release Thread

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Anyone figured a way to copy and paste Bklt/LED flash colors and patterns? Giving us room for 5.31x10^12 channels but making us separately enter and reenter and rereenter the same flash patterns over and over again is going to get old VERY fast.

Same question for Dly [scan delay]?

And what about whole channels? I see the "Duplicate" button, but that always adds to the end. Is there no way to insert a channel between two channels? Or to move an existing channel up or down?

The scanner seems absolutely fantastic, but these seem like pretty basic editor features that are missing. I'm sure I must have overlooked something somewhere.

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Highlight the entire range of objects and then click the box. It will rotate through all the options for all objects simultaneously.




Anyone figured a way to copy and paste Bklt/LED flash colors and patterns? Giving us room for 5.31x10^12 channels but making us separately enter and reenter and rereenter the same flash patterns over and over again is going to get old VERY fast.

Same question for Dly [scan delay]?

And what about whole channels? I see the "Duplicate" button, but that always adds to the end. Is there no way to insert a channel between two channels? Or to move an existing channel up or down?

The scanner seems absolutely fantastic, but these seem like pretty basic editor features that are missing. I'm sure I must have overlooked something somewhere.

...R
 

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Guys, I've put cell phone display protector on my 800, the display crystal will scratch easily.
 

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Highlight the entire range of objects and then click the box. It will rotate through all the options for all objects simultaneously.

Thanks. That helps a lot for editing difficult-to-edit fields like a lot of channels' flash pattern/color or delay for existing channels. But it doesn't address the problem of what to do when I add new channels: i.e., there's no way to copy an existing flash color/pattern to a new channel or to a bunch of new channels. Hopefully GRE will remedy this.

There is also no way to paste in flash colors/patterns or scanlists from an external source. Because of all of the limitations with scanner editors, and in order to keep my channels consistent across a number of different radios without having to edit them in multiple editors (e.g., if a repeater changes freq or PL), like a lot of folks, I'm sure, I keep all of my data in an external source (an Excel spreadsheet). Then when I want to reprogram a radio, I copy from Excel to the radio's native program just before programming. I use the radio's native editor to store only radio-specific configuration info. There needs to be a way to paste all channel data, including backlight/flash color/patterns, from an external source.

And we still need a way to move existing channels up and down, to insert a new channel before or after an existing channel, and so forth.
 

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Thanks. That helps a lot for editing difficult-to-edit fields like a lot of channels' flash pattern/color or delay for existing channels. But it doesn't address the problem of what to do when I add new channels: i.e., there's no way to copy an existing flash color/pattern to a new channel or to a bunch of new channels. Hopefully GRE will remedy this.

There is also no way to paste in flash colors/patterns or scanlists from an external source. Because of all of the limitations with scanner editors, and in order to keep my channels consistent across a number of different radios without having to edit them in multiple editors (e.g., if a repeater changes freq or PL), like a lot of folks, I'm sure, I keep all of my data in an external source (an Excel spreadsheet). Then when I want to reprogram a radio, I copy from Excel to the radio's native program just before programming. I use the radio's native editor to store only radio-specific configuration info. There needs to be a way to paste all channel data, including backlight/flash color/patterns, from an external source.

And we still need a way to move existing channels up and down, to insert a new channel before or after an existing channel, and so forth.

Am I correct that the PSR-800 application software, down loadable from their site and on the enclosed CD, is not really helpful? Can scan files be uploaded and downloaded to the radio using it? Or do we have to drop and paste files back and forth? Asides from setting the date and clock what does it do? I have resorted to everything manually as the application seems to be a crap shoot, and I do not wish to loose the work I have done.
 

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I'm not sure what you are asking. The software allows you to configure everything in the radio very easily and you simply update the changes in the radio or the software depending on which is least current at the time.
 

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Am I correct that the PSR-800 application software, down loadable from their site and on the enclosed CD, is not really helpful? Can scan files be uploaded and downloaded to the radio using it? Or do we have to drop and paste files back and forth? Asides from setting the date and clock what does it do? I have resorted to everything manually as the application seems to be a crap shoot, and I do not wish to loose the work I have done.

No, I'd say the program is EXTREMELY helpful. GRE has thought of almost everything, and I certainly didn't mean to imply otherwise. For folks that will rely on the RRDB and make only occasional tweaks of their own, I suspect you'll find that it'll be excellent and all you ever need.

I rely heavily on my own data, however (which I can't submit to the RRDB because of professional restrictions). And I also have a lot of different radios, but I don't want to keep a whole lot of different databases, primarily to avoid duplication of effort by having to propagate changes to a channel across a bunch of disparate radio editors. So I keep my data in an external source, and then right before I program a radio, I paste it into that radio's native editor/programmer. Thus, features like a complete import facility, the ability to juggle channels around in the editor, etc., are critical to me.

I don't think my situation is unique since I'm sure there are other "heavy users" out there, but I understand that it likely doesn't represent a ton of users. I was just making a wishlist for GRE ;^)

I think you'll be amazed at how powerful GRE's software is.

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Am I correct that the PSR-800 application software, down loadable from their site and on the enclosed CD, is not really helpful? Can scan files be uploaded and downloaded to the radio using it? Or do we have to drop and paste files back and forth? Asides from setting the date and clock what does it do? I have resorted to everything manually as the application seems to be a crap shoot, and I do not wish to loose the work I have done.

The software that comes with the radio and is available on the GRE website is probably the BEST software that has ever come with a radio like this. In the past, programming software tended to lag behind the radio release and then, in some cases (for non-GRE radios at least), the capabilities of the software was pretty limited - and you typically would be expected to pay additional $$$ for it. This time you get the software with the radio and it helps tremendously (if you want to use it). However, given that all of the programming data is already loaded in the radio, basic/novice users don't even need programming software - you can enabled/loadl sites/systems right from the radio's user interface. The software helps you with more advanced functions and/or to have more control over the radio configuration.

There are always going to be some things any software doesn't (yet) do -- you've got to stop somewhere. However, the software has built-in update functionality so over time you may expect to see additional features added based on feedback.
 
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So it seems the new PSR-108 will be great to use with friends and family,at home or on the go,and can fit in with my hectic business schedule and personal life.
 

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Yes, the scanner always operates like the PSR-500's "MultiSite Roam" setting. It looks through a TSYS's list of sites, stopping when it finds the first control channel that meets the "high threshold".

The only way to manually pick and choose what sites you want to monitor is to create multiple trunked systems, each with their own sets of sites and talkgroups. You'd probably want to use different scan lists for the talkgroups in order to choose which TSYS / site arrangement is monitored.

You cannot "import" to multiple trunked systems from the library data. The scanner and the PC software both recognize that you already have a trunked system matching the RR DB's "trunked system ID" value, and will just update / add to the existing system. To create such multiple systems, at most one can be "imported" - the rest must be created manually in the PC software.

Hi Don, Just to see something could be done for this problem I submitted a ticket to the GRE Support site. I was not surprised in the answer I received and it supports what you've told us. I would like a better solution than to just program the system manually, when the radio is supposed to allow you to use the current information right from the Radioreference database and without a PC when using the microSD.

While I understand the concept of keeping it simple for the new users or casual users that just want the basic operation and database at their fingertips so they can hear P25 digital trunked system, the advanced user configuration and has it's own set of operations and programming but can't even allow for a set or individual sites to be assigned to a different scan list. To me this is somewhat of a step backward in how we are able to use the scanlist, especially with the new scan set feature and all the available memory that is now available to us by using an SD or microSD card.

With the PSR-500 we had a set amount of memory available, but are able to import in any configuration we want in multiple scanlists (using third party software such as Win500 and PSREdit500, or ARC500) as well as be able to lock out individual sites from the radio.

Many of the new features are great advancements on the PSR-800 are obviously ideas from posts right here on these forums. Too bad we can do some of the basic things that we already had with the PSR-500 and began to improve with importing and memory features only to skimp on flexible methods to do the basic programming of the radio when it comes to milti-site trunking systems.

I'm sure to many this seems a minor issue, but to some of us who started with programming banks and channels are wondering why were back to square one and have to do the basic trunked system programming all over again when we purchased a radio to give us these great features to begin with.

Can this be improved with new firmware or would the current setup have to be scrapped and reworked in order to fix this problem?

Why not do something like giving the trunked system import a different number such as a numerical increment so the radio thinks it has a different trunked system?
 

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My PSR-800's long road to New Jersey finally completed today...seems like a great radio...the digital audio is awesome...will have a more complete review later. Right now though, for the life of me, I can't figure out how to get Radio IDs to begin showing in line 5 of text on the display on the scanner. I have Line 5 in Trunked System Channels under the Advanced Settings tab in the software set to "Radio ID". Yet for the three trunk systems I've put in so far (Burlington County NJ, NJ State Police, Philly Fire), Line 5 stays blank. Additionally, even though I set Line 3 in Trunked System Channels to "Alpha Tag and TGID", it still only shows the Alpha Tag on the scanner, does not toggle to the TGID. None of the changes I make in the Trunked System Channels area under Advanced Display Settings in the software seem to carry over. Yet, I checked the settings on the scanner itself and they seem to show the changes I made (i.e. there is a checkmark next to Show Radio ID under the Expert Settings). I must be missing a step somewhere? Thanks for any help in advance...
 

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Why not do something like giving the trunked system import a different number such as a numerical increment so the radio thinks it has a different trunked system?

Here's another idea. Why not import the system site as the Radioreference site "name" to memory. If this can not be accomplished from the radio import at least allow it in the software. If it still can't be done this way, why not allow the user to import the trunked system and then select the site to be used (or copied) and give the site a unique name as a new trunked system?
 

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I can't figure out how to get ID aliases to show. It's showing the numerical ID but never shows the name.
 

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Just add a RadioID Wildcard for each system in the trunked tab.

Still not showing. In the expert settings on the scanner, I have Show Radio ID, Use RID Alert, Show VC/CC, and Show TGID all checked now, yet it is still showing just the default lines of text on the display while scanning Trunk Systems (just Alpha Tag and System Name). Very strange.
 
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