GRE PSR 800 Pre Release Thread

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It's unlikely that there will be any 3rd-party software.

What would you want such software to do that the included software doesn't handle?

Hoping to be able to import data I already have into new scanner like we did from PRO-97 to Win500. For those of us who spend a lot of time formatting descriptions a certain way will be able to use already available info. Another advantage would be to use info that is not on the RR website.

Wondering if it will be possible to cut and paste info into the supplied program, will it support the same format as your programs.

I use or have used all your programs since you started and am hoping you are just not letting us know you will support this scanner as you have in the past. Please say you have it in the works, if you do I will buy it.

There are lots of things that will probably be usable I just can't think now.

I can still import info that I haven't done before.

Maybe you did the software for them?
 

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If the included software is anything like the EZ-Scan software for the 700, then it should work well. I was able to add the marine and railroad channels, not included in the Radioreference database, to the scanlist via the software as well as wildcards for the TGRP and RID's that I was interested in. I'm also hoping it will allow for audio file manipulation via the USB interface.

About the only thing I'll miss on the 700 (besides P25 decode) is the ability to direct enter from a keypad on the radio. At least a letter/number interface could be included for such operation, but unfortunately this must have been overlooked as it would have been an alternate method to enter the information without a true keypad on the radio. This would solve many problems for those who do not wish to be tethered to a PC in some instances.
 

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Don, you mentioned that the IF discriminator output was working well from the earphone jack. Was this with a shielded cable or a standard patch cord? Also, do we have the ability to use the USB interface for this data?

I like the fact that the manual points out the usage with UniTrunker, Trunk88, and Treport.
 

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It would be nice if they would let us download and get familiar with the programming application now before the units start shipping.
 

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Don, you mentioned that the IF discriminator output was working well from the earphone jack. Was this with a shielded cable or a standard patch cord? Also, do we have the ability to use the USB interface for this data?

I found it in the owners manual text, I had skipped it the first time.
"PC/IF CCDump
When enabled, streams ASCII Control Channel Dump data over
the USB interface when the radio is tuned to a trunking control
channel."

This must also be the control channel dump to microSD also?
 

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Don, you mentioned that the IF discriminator output was working well from the earphone jack. Was this with a shielded cable or a standard patch cord? Also, do we have the ability to use the USB interface for this data?

I like the fact that the manual points out the usage with UniTrunker, Trunk88, and Treport.

Just a standard stereo patch cord between the scanner's headphone jack and my PC's microphone input jack.

No, the USB interface doesn't supply an "audio" device.
 

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I found it in the owners manual text, I had skipped it the first time.
"PC/IF CCDump
When enabled, streams ASCII Control Channel Dump data over
the USB interface when the radio is tuned to a trunking control
channel."

This must also be the control channel dump to microSD also?

That's the text-based control channel data, like the PSR-500. It can be sent to either the USB port's serial device ("COM port") or the microSD Card.
 

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For the encryption discussion folks, it looks like some great features have come out of some of the postings from the past:

"EncMode
Selects how the radio treats encrypted voice calls. “Noise” plays
the random undecoded encryption noise. “Silent” plays no audio
during the call. “Tone” plays a soft tone for the duration of the
call.
EncLevel
Selects the tone level for tones played during encrypted calls."

This is awesome, I've been looking for something like this for a while.

Hopefully the control channel display and system save features from the 500 are available for limit search. It looks like it retained the Hex/Decimal format via TG display setting.

Now conventional P25 is mentioned, but I do not see anything specific about NAC searching or storage to an object. Is it still available?
"CONV TGID
When enabled, shows the Talkgroup ID for P25 Conventional
Talkgroup calls. Simple Display must be unchecked."

"CONV Radio ID
When enabled, shows the Radio ID for P25 conventional calls.
Simple Display must be unchecked."

Perhaps the way this is written is just what I'm not accustom to and this is a reference to NAC for conventional P25?
 

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Hoping to be able to import data I already have into new scanner like we did from PRO-97 to Win500. For those of us who spend a lot of time formatting descriptions a certain way will be able to use already available info. Another advantage would be to use info that is not on the RR website.

Wondering if it will be possible to cut and paste info into the supplied program, will it support the same format as your programs.

The PC software does support pasting from the Windows Clipboard and importing from text files.
 

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Hopefully the control channel display and system save features from the 500 are available for limit search. It looks like it retained the Hex/Decimal format via TG display setting.
No, the PSR-800 doesn't have that PSR-500 feature (it's in the PSR-500's "Tune mode", which the PSR-800 does not have).

Now conventional P25 is mentioned, but I do not see anything specific about NAC searching or storage to an object. Is it still available?
"CONV TGID
When enabled, shows the Talkgroup ID for P25 Conventional
Talkgroup calls. Simple Display must be unchecked."

"CONV Radio ID
When enabled, shows the Radio ID for P25 conventional calls.
Simple Display must be unchecked."

Perhaps the way this is written is just what I'm not accustom to and this is a reference to NAC for conventional P25?

NAC is separate from (and in addition to) the above TGID and RadioID displays. Yes, you can search and store CTCSS / DCS / NAC from conventional channels that are programmed to "search" for those values.
 

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Don, do you have an example of the Scan-set feature. I see the default is all Scanlist are turned on, then you can select a "set" of scanlists to be activated individually, but it looks like the scanlist have to be turned on in order to be scanned from a Scan-set. It looks like the advantage to this is that you can turn a set of scanlist on and off for a situation or location.
 

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No, the PSR-800 doesn't have that PSR-500 feature (it's in the PSR-500's "Tune mode", which the PSR-800 does not have).

That's too bad. It's a great feature I would have loved to have on the 800, and one I'll need to keep my 500/600 for especially for trunked DX during band openings.
 

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That's the text-based control channel data, like the PSR-500. It can be sent to either the USB port's serial device ("COM port") or the microSD Card.

This is great. It could be used for new trunked systems from the road, UniTrunker troubleshooting and setup, and data capture for possible new control channel modes.
 

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Don, do you have an example of the Scan-set feature. I see the default is all Scanlist are turned on, then you can select a "set" of scanlists to be activated individually, but it looks like the scanlist have to be turned on in order to be scanned from a Scan-set. It looks like the advantage to this is that you can turn a set of scanlist on and off for a situation or location.

The Scan Sets feature is geared toward people who have lots of different things (where "different" is based on geography, agency, usage, etc.) they want to monitor, and want a somewhat easier method of choosing what to monitor than the default toggling of individual Scan Lists.

There are 200 Scan Lists. Each talkgroup and conventional channel belongs to no, any, or all of those Scan Lists. Scan Lists are toggled on/off via a "Scan Lists" menu (all 200 lists are in that menu).

There are 20 Scan Sets. Each Scan Set contains a list of 200 flags, one for each Scan List. Scan Sets are edited (their member Scan Lists toggled) by menus that looks just like the one mentioned in the previous paragraph. Scan Sets themselves are enabled/disabled via another menu (20 Scan Sets with a checkbox for each).

In order to be "scanned", an object (talkgroup or conventional channel) must:
a) be a member of at least one enabled Scan List, where that Scan List
b) is a member of at least one enabled Scan Set

By default:
* Scan List 001 is enabled, all others are disabled
* Scan Set 01 contains all 200 Scan Lists, all other Scan Sets are empty
* Scan Set 01 is enabled, all other Scan Sets are disabled
These defaults effectively make the Scan Sets feature transparent. Since Scan Set 01 is enabled and contains all 200 Scan Lists, condition (b) above is always satisfied: you can completely ignore the Scan Sets feature, and just use Scan Lists like you might on a PSR-500, PSR-310, PSR-700.

The default settings are geared toward the [presumed] majority of users, who will only have a few Scan Lists they want to monitor or toggle. Those users can control what they hear by just toggling a few Scan Lists on or off.

For more "advanced" users, who might have many areas or agencies they want to split among many Scan Lists but who might have a few "common listening setups" (certain unique groups of Scan Lists they commonly monitor), toggling 200 Scan Lists might be cumbersome. The Scan Sets are intended to help with that.

It's hard for me to give an example, because I don't have that much that I commonly monitor - just the city PD and FD, county Sheriff, and CHP. A generic example, though, might be something like this:
* 10 cities, each with their own PD and FD
* specific channels/talkgroups for PD and FD dispatch
* 40 Scan Lists: <10 cities> x <PD vs. FD> x <dispatch vs. "everything else">
* All 40 Scan Lists enabled
* Scan Sets for things like:
+ All cities' PD dispatch
+ City #1 Fire (both dispatch and "everything else")
+ City #2 PD (both dispatch and "everything else")
+ City #1 and City #2 PD, dispatch only
+ City #1, City #3, and City #4, all PD and all Fire
* Toggling Scan Sets on/off can enable/disable such "groupings" much more easily than going through 40 Scan Lists
 

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That's great. I have a couple of applications for a Scan set now. Now to see if I can program it correctly.

I guess it would be easier to set-up with the software however.
 

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Dave for my scan sets i will have the folloewing dstates

TN
KY
AL
MS
GA
NC
AR
MO
IL
IN
OH
SC
VA
WV

all for DX plus travel

when the skip/Ducting comes in i can turn on states and TRS as cx warrent
Dave i suggest doing a scan set state by state for the states around you
 

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Dave for my scan sets i will have the folloewing dstates

TN
KY
AL
MS
GA
NC
AR
MO
IL
IN
OH
SC
VA
WV

all for DX plus travel

when the skip/Ducting comes in i can turn on states and TRS as cx warrent
Dave i suggest doing a scan set state by state for the states around you

For things like "lots of states when traveling" (not counting DX, I suppose), don't forget the 200 V-Scanner folders. Switching among them is just as easy/fast as switching Scan Sets.
 

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I know several people that are very excited about this and the Uniden Homepatrol-1, as they have been very frustrated with digital scanners in general. I just ordered a Homepatrol-1 for a friend's dad a few minutes ago, and I will set that up for him, and then take it over and show him how to use it. I got his last scanner, a Pro-2096 super cheap after he got fed up with it. I don't know what it was exactly that got him so upset with it, but it ended up being a good deal for me at the end.
 

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The PC software does support pasting from the Windows Clipboard and importing from text files.
Don
thanks for the reply, have been practicing on PSR-700 software for several days and find it to be acceptable. am assuming that PSR-800 software is as good, hoping for a little more versatility.

want to thank you again for all the support all these years. it is hard to change things for an old man. I can see a certain amount of similarity to yours.

I just wish I could get a copy of the newer software, allowing me to have a configuration ready to go when the new scanner comes in. was hoping GRE would put the software on the website.
 

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It must have been released... saw one on eBay

As per a thread I started, but is not posted yet, I saw one on eBay this morning. It might just be an isolated release... you may want to check. I don't remember the price... was shocked to see it. Maybe it hasn't sold yet.
 
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