Fast1eddie
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Whoopie. Yawn. Who cares???
GRE PSR 800 Pre Release Thread
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RadioDaze
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I'd go as far as to say that the Home Patrol is Uniden's response to the (analog) Pro-107/PSR-700: the first database-driven scanner. And the PSR-800 is the digital upgrade to that concept.
Different companies... different patents to approach the same solution.
Well actually
.....UPMan has commented publicly that the HomePatrol was in development
for 3 years or more before being released....I believe the HP-1 is a unique
product of its own and is not "in response" to any other device on the market.
Both GRE and Uniden are to be commended for continuing to listen to their
existing userbase while still trying to attract new users to the hobby.
Marshall KE4ZNR
Highpockets
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Well actually
UPMan has commented publicly that the HomePatrol was in development
for 3 years or more before being released....I believe the HP-1 is a unique
product of its own and is not "in response" to any other device on the market.
Both GRE and Uniden are to be commended for continuing to listen to their
existing userbase while still trying to attract new users to the hobby.
Marshall KE4ZNR
If you read the threads what users would like to see in new scanners, I don't think either company listens to the existing userbase, they are just leaning towards new users. That is a good thing, but, they need to not forget the advanced user.
You got that right. Who asked for someone to hold their hand while programming? It wasn't me.
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This is where we will have to disagree. Both GRE and Uniden are put in
a difficult situation: having to try to attract new users to a niche hobby that
has a steep learning curve from the very beginning while still trying to
provide new radios with innovative feature sets for us diehard geeks.
Just because both companies try to draw new people to our hobby
with radios such as the PSR 800 and the HP-1 does not mean that
they have abandoned advanced radios such as the PSR-500 or the
XT line of radios. Of course I can only speak from the Uniden side of the
fence
but I am sure GRE has not forgotten their advanced scannerline either.
Is either company perfect? No, but to say both GRE & Uniden don't listen
to the userbase here at RR.com and elsewhere online is foolish.
I do believe both Don Starr and UPman both have ears very attuned to the
hobby market even if they are not able to grant our every whim
Happy Monitoring
Marshall KE4ZNR
P.S. I too look forward to playing with a PSR 800. Kudos to the whole GRE
team for continuing to innovate and come up with new features.
Right, but I have said many times our hobby will not survive unless we bring
in new users. Not trying to be a negative nellie but both GRE & Uniden realize
that for the market to continue to grow and thrive they have to cater to more
than us advanced radio geeks. They have to provide radios that do not require
an engineering degree just to be able to listen to your local Police/Fire/Rescue.
They have to help the "Joes' of the world get past the front door of the hobby house
where they will (once hooked) want to learn more advanced parts of the hobby.
Once again: Our hobby will not survive without attracting new users and expanding
out from the die hard radio geek market.
I can guarantee both GRE & Uniden would not have invested in the PSR 700/800
and HP-1 lines of radios at the expense of their top of the line radios.
I can promise you they are not killing the sacred calf just to get a few more dineros
in the bank with these other offerings.
They are just trying to give everyone a chance to be a part of our hobby.
Happy Monitoring
Marshall KE4ZNR
P.P.S Did I mention I can't wait to grab a PSR 800 to add to the collection?
Right, but I have said many times our hobby will not survive unless we bring
in new users. Not trying to be a negative nellie but both GRE & Uniden realize
that for the market to continue to grow and thrive they have to cater to more
than us advanced radio geeks. They have to provide radios that do not require
an engineering degree just to be able to listen to your local Police/Fire/Rescue.
They have to help the "Joes' of the world get past the front door of the hobby house
where they will (once hooked) want to learn more advanced parts of the hobby.
Once again: Our hobby will not survive without attracting new users and expanding
out from the die hard radio geek market.
I can guarantee both GRE & Uniden would not have invested in the PSR 700/800
and HP-1 lines of radios at the expense of their top of the line radios.
I can promise you they are not killing the sacred calf just to get a few more dineros
in the bank with these other offerings.
They are just trying to give everyone a chance to be a part of our hobby.
Happy Monitoring
Marshall KE4ZNR
P.P.S Did I mention I can't wait to grab a PSR 800 to add to the collection?
Sorry Marshal. I have heard this over and over as part of the HP bandwagon and I disagree. I could care less about Uniden and GRE's business plan. If they want to expand, it should not be done at the expense of existing customers. I am bitter about my 396XT purchase. I had a 396T that did not perform up to my expectations. I liked it other than the digital decoding and wanted to remain loyal. I bought the hype and got a 396XT. Once I got over the new gee-whiz factor, the performance was actually worse. I thought there would be a firmware update to straighten it out. But NO. Uniden has all of their engineering resources tied up on the HP and I'm still waiting, I finally bought a GRE to see if it was better.IT sure was, Uniden is working on the wrong thing as far as I am concerned.
Boredom
If you ask me, I think people are getting bored with the same old features and/or scanning in itself. It is human nature to desire something "new and exciting", yet when Uniden or GRE or any other company for that matter, fails to bring out that "excitement", certain people complain. Dont get me wrong, there can always be improvements, but at what cost? Remember, you cannot please everyone all the time. There will always be someone complaining, weather it is a newbie, who thinks a loaded scanner is too overwelming, or a pro, who is always looking for added features or a challenge. I say we should be glad for the accomplishments that have been developed in the scanning industry, hope for the best, and be glad the whole scanning world is not encrypted! Have patience. Technology will advance.
If you ask me, I think people are getting bored with the same old features and/or scanning in itself. It is human nature to desire something "new and exciting", yet when Uniden or GRE or any other company for that matter, fails to bring out that "excitement", certain people complain. Dont get me wrong, there can always be improvements, but at what cost? Remember, you cannot please everyone all the time. There will always be someone complaining, weather it is a newbie, who thinks a loaded scanner is too overwelming, or a pro, who is always looking for added features or a challenge. I say we should be glad for the accomplishments that have been developed in the scanning industry, hope for the best, and be glad the whole scanning world is not encrypted! Have patience. Technology will advance.
Even in the development of the 500/600, GRE was trying to reach out to newbies. Fortunately they settled on a powerful feature set and a lot of flexibility that also appealed to advanced users. I'd love to know what the object capacity is.
200 scanlists which can be combined in 20 different ways--I don't know if the scanlists can be brought in and out of the scan individually. Don?
200 v-scanners. Presumably this is 200 v-scanners of up to 200 scanlists each. That's a lot of memory. They were sure listening to me on that! I wonder if it can take an SD card of greater than 2 GB.
I agree that the interface on the 500/600 seems better for power searchers, but depending on what you can do with the 800 using the software--it could be considerably ahead of anything else right now.
Hopefully, Don is developin Win800 as we speak.
73/Allen (N4JRI)
TES
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Here's from Don's earlier list of features:
DonS
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The number of conventional channels, trunked systems, sites per trunked system, talkgroups per trunked system, and radio IDs per trunked system is limited only by available microSD Card space. The total is in the tens of millions.
Yes, individual scan lists can still be enabled and disabled individually, like the PSR-500, PRO-107, etc. The "scan sets" feature is another level of enabling/disabling/grouping above the basic scan list level: a scan list is "scanned" if and only if a) the scan list is individually enabled AND b) the scan list is a member of at least one enabled scan set.
Any card that meets the SD Card spec and uses 512-byte blocks is supported, up to 32GB.
RadioDaze
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A HELLUVA LOT of people, which is obvious when reading even a smattering of posts on these forums.
Halfpint
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Drat!
I got the model number wrong!
I was hoping that it would be a PSR-900 so that they could then use PSR-800 & PSR-1000 as the model numbers for the Base/Mobil versions.
Nope! I *do not* have anything against HHs but, to set up one up as a `base'/`mobile' is a bit of a PITA when one's `shack' is primarily setup to have the radios either hung under a shelf or on top of a shelf. (Or mounted in rack panels.) Especially if the HH doesn't have even a `basic' `clip' provided. (I can somewhat basically live with using a HH mobile as I usually use one of those plastic `cupholders' that can be hung off the door via the slot between the window and door panel. Puts the speaker right where it can usually be easily heard and can also be easily grabbed upon exit and stuffed into either a vest pocket or carry bag.)
Oh, well... Just an `Olde Fart's' 2¢ worth?
I got the model number wrong!
I was hoping that it would be a PSR-900 so that they could then use PSR-800 & PSR-1000 as the model numbers for the Base/Mobil versions.
Nope! I *do not* have anything against HHs but, to set up one up as a `base'/`mobile' is a bit of a PITA when one's `shack' is primarily setup to have the radios either hung under a shelf or on top of a shelf. (Or mounted in rack panels.) Especially if the HH doesn't have even a `basic' `clip' provided. (I can somewhat basically live with using a HH mobile as I usually use one of those plastic `cupholders' that can be hung off the door via the slot between the window and door panel. Puts the speaker right where it can usually be easily heard and can also be easily grabbed upon exit and stuffed into either a vest pocket or carry bag.)
Oh, well... Just an `Olde Fart's' 2¢ worth?
The sound output on this radio is incredible. They definitely got that right! It is not only loud, but it has a high quality tone to it.
I like that the Att key was added which is useful for mobile operation.
I like those new features, but the dealbreaker for me is the lack of a keypad. I'll wait to see what they come out with next.
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The GRE's have always had good reviews with the audio on digital systems. I like the audio on my PSR-500 and Pro-197. Is it better than the 500 (trying to compare hand-held to hand-held?
Todd
It is not quite at the mobile radio level since it is a 6V radio instead of 12V, but it is as loud (within a small margin) as the PSR-500 but with a bit less distortion. As Don noted it is a good bit louder than the PSR-700 non-digital version. I think this is partly due to two AA batteries (PSR-700) vs four AA batteries (PSR-800 and PSR-500).
patin
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seems like it has a lot of new thechnology but with a VERY OLD SCHOOL look i like the look of my 500 and 96 (the look dosent sell me on this one) ill wait to see what comes out next
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