Greater Cleveland Radio Communication Network

[ron351]

Ok thanks, I ordered a SpectrumForce Yagi from Scannermaster. Cross my fingers that one works. If not then I may look into the SD200 scanner

 

[ron351]

I went to Scanner Master and bought a Yagi antenna. I am still using the new Discone in the attic which is doing pretty good, but still has a couple moments at times of garble. Couple questions, since I am close to 1st district police like 4 miles away, would the Yagi do ok in the attic? And is there a meter that can be attached to detect signal power when aiming like installers use on satellite dishes? Or is aiming a general direction turn a little this way and that way thing? I was going to try a compass app on the phone for direction but didn't see a degrees location in the database that could be used as reference.

 

[an39511]

I went to Scanner Master and bought a Yagi antenna. I am still using the new Discone in the attic which is doing pretty good, but still has a couple moments at times of garble. Couple questions, since I am close to 1st district police like 4 miles away, would the Yagi do ok in the attic? And is there a meter that can be attached to detect signal power when aiming like installers use on satellite dishes? Or is aiming a general direction turn a little this way and that way thing? I was going to try a compass app on the phone for direction but didn't see a degrees location in the database that could be used as reference.

Most likely it will work in your attic. In your area it is probably not about a weak signal but more of to much signal from multiple towers.
You should point it where you get the best reception, which may or may not be the first district.

Example: Say you point it at the first district and there is another tower further down (say I480 & I176) the combining of those two towers is what causes multipath interference.

Once you find a sweet spot for good reception make a careful note of where it's aimed in direction. Sometimes it takes a few days to figure out where the best and most stable reception comes from.

 

[ron351]

Thanks for a quick reply. I had a feeling it was not going to be a easy way. Hoped there was a meter to connect but like you say it can pick up something beyond the first district tower and still be off a little. I actually got about the same reception without any antenna connected. I have a "T" on the coax from the attic antenna and splits the signal to my base I broadcast from to the upstairs hand held I listen from, and guess the 2 coax cables connected to the "T" adapter acts like an antenna and also does basically as good as when the "T" is connected to the coax to the attic antenna. But there are a couple instances of garble I am trying to eliminate completely. Thats why I want to mess with the Yagi and see if I can't get better without the couple instances of garble I get, which is not a lot, but enough to be irritating

 

[Swipesy]

Before downsizing I used a Yagi in my attic 40 feet up. I did not get good results. I then moved the Yagi outside on a 20 ft pole. After many days of adjusting direction I found a sweet spot direction for the Yagi. Since I could never tell which of the many towers it was hearing I did find that the Yagi performed best with the Yagi backside turned towards the closest tower. As an39511 stated, you have to play with direction. Once you find your sweet spot you should do fine.

 

[ron351]

Before downsizing I used a Yagi in my attic 40 feet up. I did not get good results. I then moved the Yagi outside on a 20 ft pole. After many days of adjusting direction I found a sweet spot direction for the Yagi. Since I could never tell which of the many towers it was hearing I did find that the Yagi performed best with the Yagi backside turned towards the closest tower. As an39511 stated, you have to play with direction. Once you find your sweet spot you should do fine.

That is where my Discone is like 40' up in the attic. I may try the yagi up there today and mess with it. Right now it is on a 4' mast above the garage roof, but being so close to the police district tower 4 miles away I felt that height might work ok. It is garbled now the direction it is aiming to which is close to the direction of the tower. I looked for a compass direction but couldn't find one where it might say the tower is like 170 degrees and use a compass phone app to help aim, so I suppose a inch here and a inch there will have to be the way to go untill that sweet spot is found. But I will try the attic area first rather then on a ladder for a hour messing with it and hope being close to the tower 4 miles away will be fine in the attic.

 

[bcahill0423]

I'm pretty sure that this isn't the right place for this post, but i'll give it a shot. Is there anyone on here that can program my Motorola xts 5000 as a scanner with the Cleveland system on it. I had a person program it awhile back, but he has sensed passed away, and there have been a ton of changes.

 

[donthegodfather]

TrunkTracker V (BCD436HP) user here. A bit stumped here trying to keep up with the Brecksville/Broadview-Heights/Independence situation. As I understand, there was a recent merge with the Chagrin Valley Dispatch Center. A few years ago I used to be able to listen to pretty much anything around Broadview-Heights. But now I'm getting a lot of silence, and a lot of nothing. "Chagrin/Southeast Region"? Sometimes I'll simply get a "Cuyahoga County" for Broadview-Heights. Anyone care to explain what's going on here? I also have a TrunkTracker III (BC346XT) programmed to some old frequencies and am getting nothing.

 

[EdAzalia]

They are not using the old VHF frequencies.
They are on the GCRCN system. Check the RRDB for the talk groups. I assure you they are quite busy!

GCRCN (Greater Cleveland Radio Communications Network) Trunking System, Cleveland, Ohio

GCRCN (Greater Cleveland Radio Communications Network) Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

Cuyahoga Valley Talkgroups.

 

[EdAzalia]

to continue.
these are the hits Ive logged since about 10 AM today and I'm scanning 3 systems so some is missed.
i1010 56701 Cuy Valley Fire GCRCN / Fire 0031
i1011 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0069
i1013 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0001
i1015 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0012
i1861768 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0001
i1861772 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0001
i1861779 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0003
i1861784 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0006
i1861786 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0001
i1861789 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0002
i1861790 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0010
i1861792 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0002
i1861795 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0003
i1861827 56701 Cuy Valley Fire GCRCN / Fire 0001
i1861847 56701 Cuy Valley Fire GCRCN / Fire 0001
i1862380 56723 Cuy Valley PD N GCRCN / Police 0005
i1862396 56723 Cuy Valley PD N GCRCN / Police 0006
i1862415 56723 Cuy Valley PD N GCRCN / Police 0004
i1862418 56723 Cuy Valley PD N GCRCN / Police 0007
i1862420 56723 Cuy Valley PD N GCRCN / Police 0008
i1862425 56723 Cuy Valley PD N GCRCN / Police 0001
i1862430 56723 Cuy Valley PD N GCRCN / Police 0001
i1862481 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0001
i1862493 56701 Cuy Valley Fire GCRCN / Fire 0006
i1862538 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0002
i1862541 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0001
i1862546 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0009
i1862548 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0005
i1862551 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0001
i1862572 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0003
i1862583 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0003
i1862585 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0001
i1862609 56701 Cuy Valley Fire GCRCN / Fire 0003
i1862618 56723 Cuy Valley PD N GCRCN / Police 0002
i1862619 56723 Cuy Valley PD N GCRCN / Police 0006
i1862637 56701 Cuy Valley Fire GCRCN / Fire 0003
i1862651 56701 Cuy Valley Fire GCRCN / Fire 0001
i1862659 56723 Cuy Valley PD N GCRCN / Police 0002
i1862684 56723 Cuy Valley PD N GCRCN / Police 0002
i1862690 56723 Cuy Valley PD N GCRCN / Police 0002
i1862692 56723 Cuy Valley PD N GCRCN / Police 0003
i1862702 56701 Cuy Valley Fire GCRCN / Fire 0001
i1862745 56701 Cuy Valley Fire GCRCN / Fire 0001
i1862750 56701 Cuy Valley Fire GCRCN / Fire 0001
i1862782 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0008
i1862783 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0004
i1862786 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0007
i1862790 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0001
i1862803 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0002
i1862806 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0003
i1862811 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0001
i1862817 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0005
i1862827 56701 Cuy Valley Fire GCRCN / Fire 0001
i1862834 56701 Cuy Valley Fire GCRCN / Fire 0002
i1862840 56701 Cuy Valley Fire GCRCN / Fire 0001
i1862863 56701 Cuy Valley Fire GCRCN / Fire 0004
i1862868 56723 Cuy Valley PD N GCRCN / Police 0003
i1862872 56723 Cuy Valley PD N GCRCN / Police 0002
i1862883 56723 Cuy Valley PD N GCRCN / Police 0002
i1862891 56723 Cuy Valley PD N GCRCN / Police 0003
i1863956 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0001
i1863967 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0001
i1863975 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0002
i1863978 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0001
i1863979 56718 Cuy Valley PD S GCRCN / Police 0004

 

[donthegodfather]

They are not using the old VHF frequencies.
They are on the GCRCN system.

No conceivable way to listen to my local PD. Is there a way to pick out specifically Brecksville city PD? If so, how do I program it? I’m trying to find what TGID it would be—also as a heads up, Broadview-Heights is actually one of the “Cuyahoga Valley”s. My brother recognized an officer’s voice.

 

[EdAzalia]

You won't hear Brecksville all by itself. It's on a shared TG with the other southern Cuyahoga Valley cities.
Rather than type this all out I will refer you to the Wiki which explains a bit about it here:

Greater Cleveland Radio Communications Network Radio IDs - The RadioReference Wiki

wiki.radioreference.com

 

[budevans]

No conceivable way to listen to my local PD. Is there a way to pick out specifically Brecksville city PD? If so, how do I program it? I’m trying to find what TGID it would be—also as a heads up, Broadview-Heights is actually one of the “Cuyahoga Valley”s. My brother recognized an officer’s voice.

Brecksville PD radio call numbers all begin with 18nn.

TG56718 Cuyahoga Valley PD Dispatch South: Brecksville, Broadview Hts., Indenpence, Seven Hills.
TG56723 Cuyahoga Valley PD Dispatch North: Brooklyn Hts. Cuyahoga Hts., Newburgh Hts., Valley View.
TG56617 Cuyahoga Valley City of Brooklyn PD Dispatch
TG56701 Cuyahoga Valley Fire Dispatch, for all nine communities.

 

[donthegodfather]

Thanks guys for the quick response! Sadly does not solve trying to hear one at a time but this is mission complete. @budevans any idea how to show the frequencies on a BCD436HP? All I get is the TGIDs but no freqs. Trying to reprogram my old TrunkTracker 3 with the new data.

 

[kf8yk]

Trying to reprogram my old TrunkTracker 3 with the new data.

The Uniden Trunktracker III series of scanners don't support P25 trunking. Most are analog only, except for the BC250D & BC785D with the optional BC25i card.

 

[donthegodfather]

The Uniden Trunktracker III series of scanners don't support P25 trunking. Most are analog only, except for the BC250D & BC785D with the optional BC25i card.

So what's this I'm reading about DSDPlus? A software that will allow me to listen to P25 trunking on my BC346XT--according to this thread, it's possible. @moonbounce

 

[budevans]

So what's this I'm reading about DSDPlus? A software that will allow me to listen to P25 trunking on my BC346XT--according to this thread, it's possible. @moonbounce

Here's a link to the Software Defined Radio forum. Software Defined Radio

Check out the forum to get the specific details involved in setting up a Software Defined Radio.

 

[fpo701]

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[Hummer8290]

Disregard

 

[PanJurekMrJerry]

What does it mean that Cuyahoga Valley Dispatch is a satellite dispatch center of Chagrin Valley Dispatch Center? Also why doe Dispatch radios on Cuyahoga Valley and Southwest Emergency Dispatch Center do not have the regular IDs starting with 18, which I guess stands for Cuyahoga County.