Greater Sudbury - Missing certain Tac talkgroups

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mistermightymoose

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I tried running Unitrunker. I'm not entirely sure how it works, but I was able to put in the frequency for the control channel and it gave me this list pretty much instantly. This matches up with what is on RR.

When I ran Unitrunker there was a table that appeared with all of the different frequencies being used. There was another tab on the program that had peers. In this tab there were four different frequencies. I can't seem to find any information on what these peer frequencies are. Does anyone know?
 

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When I ran Unitrunker there was a table that appeared with all of the different frequencies being used. There was another tab on the program that had peers. In this tab there were four different frequencies. I can't seem to find any information on what these peer frequencies are. Does anyone know?
A peer frequency will refer to adjacent sites in the system.
 

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Perhaps some of the TAC channels are conventional? London Fire has a few simplex TAC channels they use when in poor coverage areas. Unitrunker should help you out though. Let it run and log the groups you are receiving on that site, then compare that list to what you think you should be receiving.
 

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I wanted to provide an update.

I used my scanner to analyze what sites I can actually receive from my house. I was able to get signal from four different sites. So, I've included those sites on my favourite list. I also manually added the four peer sites that Unitrunker identified.

There is a fire taking place on the other side of the city and I've been able to receive many more transmissions on the Tac channels than I would before. I'm not entirely sure if I'm missing calls, but it's much more active than it's been in the past. Thank you all for your help.
 

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Many fire services also have channels on their radios that are simplex channels, that is: they bypass the trunking system, and are used because they are much more reliable on a fireground than running into a potential system dead spot. Close Call can be your friend if you happen to be near a working fire.

If you search the TAFL for City of Greater Sudbury Fire Department, you will find several allocations which have the same RX/TX info; these *could* be an indication of simplex channels and you should also monitor these.

For example:
860.1125
860.3625
860.6125
860.8625

TAFL Search Results (mckie.ca)
 

mistermightymoose

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Many fire services also have channels on their radios that are simplex channels, that is: they bypass the trunking system, and are used because they are much more reliable on a fireground than running into a potential system dead spot. Close Call can be your friend if you happen to be near a working fire.

If you search the TAFL for City of Greater Sudbury Fire Department, you will find several allocations which have the same RX/TX info; these *could* be an indication of simplex channels and you should also monitor these.

For example:
860.1125
860.3625
860.6125
860.8625

TAFL Search Results (mckie.ca)

Thanks! I've added the frequencies to my favourite list. Is there a reason why many of the frequencies on the site that you shared do not seem to be listed on Radio Reference?

Thanks again!
 

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Hi there.

Fellow Sudburian here, (West Side).

Sorry, I’m just replying to this now. I uncharacteristically haven’t checked out the RR forums in a month or so.

I recently (as in the past couple weeks) acquired a BCD436HP and have been enjoying playing around with it. Before that, had always used Radio Shack or Whistler models for the past 25 years or so.

As far as Sudbury's fire, all frequencies you will need are in the database, under the city trunked system. Just add the site(s) and talk groups you want to monitor.

The TG's are also accurate and have been the ones in use for at least 3 or 4 years now.The tac channels aren’t used very often, but the ones listed are correct.

95% of all fire communications will be on either City Ops (tg303) or Regional Ops (tg314), depending where the fire is.
The specific station talk-groups are only used for initially paging out the volunteer stations.

There are no talk around/simplex or other (non city p25 channels/frequencies) used by Greater Sudbury Fire Services.

As others have said, if there isn’t a unit associated to the talk group you want to hear near the site(s) you’ve programmed, then you won’t hear it. A good example of this would be Transit.

I’ve spent this week trying to pin down Sudbury Hydro’s comm's on their DMR freq. with little success so far.

I have however figured out the Spectrum, Inco/Vale and Glencore systems.

Any specific questions, feel free to PM.
 
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