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GTS batteries?

K6GBW

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Looking for a source for APX and XTS batteries. Finding Motorola branded batteries has proven to be a challenge. A friend who is with LAPD said that they are using the GTS branded batteries and they work well. Anyone else have any opinion of them? Any other brands that are good/reliable?
 

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I have several GTS batteries for my xts3000’s and they all work and fit great. Not sure if they make Impress compatible batteries for the 5000’s but don’t really need the Impress functions for my 3000’s
 

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PowerProducts is another one that is good and has more variety of offerings. I'm a dealer for them and have sold probably 500 of them in the last year with only one going bad. Along with that probably 150 of the XTS 2500 or 5000 sizes and no issues there.
 

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Looking for a source for APX and XTS batteries. Finding Motorola branded batteries has proven to be a challenge. A friend who is with LAPD said that they are using the GTS branded batteries and they work well. Anyone else have any opinion of them? Any other brands that are good/reliable?
I've got 2 for my XTS2500's. Had them for well over a year, and I've had not issues with them. I'll definitely give them a thumbs up and wouldn't recommend anything else.

I'm not sure that Motorola still markets batteries for the XTS2500, bit I know Waris batteries will work, they don't communicate battery data to the radio.. no battery display, remaining capacity or number of charges information.

I currently run 2x Waris NiMH, 2x Waris Lithium Ion and 2x GTS for my 2 remaining XTS2500's.

Yea, I know, I got to keep 2 different chargers around because I can't find an adaptor for my WPLN4114AR charger. If I ever find an adapter for it, I'll only need a single charger for my Waris batteries, Cosmo batteries and my XPR batteries.
I have several GTS batteries for my xts3000’s and they all work and fit great. Not sure if they make Impress compatible batteries for the 5000’s but don’t really need the Impress functions for my 3000’s
They make impres compatible batteries for the XTS5000 and 2500. I agree, the GTS batteries fit and finish for my XTS2500 are as good or better than OEM.

I have an XTS5000 that I'm going to need new batteries for, and they will be GTS when I pull the trigger.
 

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Waveband Communications - Japanese cells, Smart battery (Impres 1 and 2 functionality) display/ communicates with OEM chargers and automate a conditioning process to extend the life of your battery. They have many radio models/chemistries/capacities. An example for the XTS5000 - The WV-6037-LIP was designed and engineered to be used with impress technology and is compatible with impress chargers and readers. Our Two-Way Radio Batteries have been tested and approved for use in critical applications by the U.S. Military, Police Forces, and Fire Departments nationwide.
 

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Waveband Communications - Japanese cells, Smart battery (Impres 1 and 2 functionality) display/ communicates with OEM chargers and automate a conditioning process to extend the life of your battery. They have many radio models/chemistries/capacities. An example for the XTS5000 - The WV-6037-LIP was designed and engineered to be used with impress technology and is compatible with impress chargers and readers. Our Two-Way Radio Batteries have been tested and approved for use in critical applications by the U.S. Military, Police Forces, and Fire Departments nationwide.
Unless I’m majorly mistaken, the “Waveband communication” batteries are nothing more than custom label PowerProducts batteries. If not, they come from the same factory. PowerProducts & GTS both offer both “smart” Impres compatible batteries as well as standard non-smart.
 

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This is not a sales pitch for Waveband Communications but I have been happy with their packs performance and they have a good warranty. Looking at the Specification sheets for the XTS5000 Lithium Ion and Lithium Polymer packs no factory was listed but the Spec and SDS listed Panasonic or equivalent cells -Sanyo Electric Co., Ltd.・Address: 222-1 , Kaminaizen, Sumoto City, Hyogo, Japan. Some packs are IP68 rated and they claim that their batteries are manufactured at ISO9001 certified manufacturing facilities that are committed to manufacturing eco-friendly products within ROHS standards. All of our two-way radio batteries undergo rigorous testing including temperature, vibration, shock, drop, short circuit and overcharge to ensure unmatched dependability. Waveband actually published on their website an article "The Top Battery Manufacturers and Suppliers For Two-Way Radios In 2024" The top ten (details are in article): Alexander Technologies, Emerging Power Battery, Motorola Solutions Batteries, Multiplier Batteries, OSI Batteries, Harris, Empire Scientific, Global Technology Systems, and Honeywell.
 

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I have several labeled GTS and RCA batteries that are 4000 mah NiMH over 3 years old and the current remaining usable capacity is 80-84%. I also have a few Cut-Rate labeled 2700 mah NiMH batteries that are over 3 years old and the remaining usable capacities are about 92%.

About 2 years ago, I elected to invest in the Impress batteries. I have Impress Radio Parts and Magnum Electronics labeled 4400 mah Li batteries which are Power Products and some are a little over and some are a little less than two-years old and the remaining usable capacities are 111-115%.

I believe I was paying around $95/each for the Impress batteries. We'll see how long they'll last.

I hope they'll last as long as my Motorola Impress batteries. I have a few around 9 years old and a couple that are a little over 11-12 years old and the remaining capacities are 92%-104%

I just tossed a couple Honeywell batteries because of the remaining capacities were less than 70%.

I have a couple or three Empire 4200 mah Li batteries with no means of checking their remaining capacities.

I haven't used a Multiplier or Alexander batteries in decades since I no longer possess any GE radios.

The above batteries are for my XTS3000 and XTS5000 radios. I also use other brand and type batteries for my XTS1500, XTS2500, HT1000, MT2000, MTS2000, Astro Saber, and Visar radios.
 
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Thanks to everyone. I ended up buy one from Wideband Communications and one from GTS. The GTS one was WAY more expensive, but I thought I’d basically test both of them. Maybe in a year or two I’ll report back as to how each is holding up!
 

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Battery selection is difficult. The selection for me depends on how the battery is used. Critical applications (safety/life saving) uses justify the extra cost of construction (reliability and durability) and cost of using high quality cells for service life. Motorola asks two questions in their marketing literature: Will it work when you pick it up? Is the battery tough enough?

The attached Impres vs competitors batteries testing results helped me understand why the batteries in my agency issued radios cost 2X to 4X more than some on the market. I remind myself of this when I experience the pain of extra cost when I purchase batteries for my personal radios.
 

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prcguy...yeah buddy, I know you would! But I can't help but believe that you've already tested them! My use case is an APX8000 used for hammy stuff only. I belong to a P25 ham group out here in Los Angeles and I use it daily, but not critical like back when I was on the job.
 
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