Ham radio license/scanner question

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I was wondering if having a ham radio license actually allows you to bring scanners into states where they don't allow mobile or portable use. There will probably be a bit of unsure's and gray lines about it but I wanted to see what other people have to say about it.
 

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Very basically, if you have a ham license and are not using a scanner for anything illegal then you will -probably- be okay. Lot's of "if's" and "buts" in that, and you're on your own that way. Is it worth getting a ham license just to have a scanner? I don't think so. It is one 'way' around a problem but not a very 'safe', or good one.
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The thing to remember is that the cop may not have the slightest idea of what ham radio is or what the license entitles you to do.

Your best bet is to be aware of the various state laws and to pay attention to them. If you are stopped because of it, then the ham radio license may help, but it is not a license to violate the laws that everyone else has to follow.
 

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The thing to remember is that the cop may not have the slightest idea of what ham radio is or what the license entitles you to do.

Your best bet is to be aware of the various state laws and to pay attention to them. If you are stopped because of it, then the ham radio license may help, but it is not a license to violate the laws that everyone else has to follow.

Cases in point, the People's Republic of New York. Many cases of hams being cited for having an "illegal scanner" or "using cell phone in moving vehicle" when all was in car has a legal vhf ham radio. Seems many cops there either don't know or care.
 

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It really depends on if the cop knows what ham radio is and if they care or don't care. I was pulled over once for speeding and the cop asked me why I had antennas on my car. I told him I was a ham radio operator he didn't question any further on it.
 

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New York state doesn't allow mobile use of scanners even by Hams. Your VHF/UHF Ham radio with wide-band receive outside the Ham bands is supposed to be exempt from the law, but, as said above, don't count on a LEO knowing the difference, or caring.
 

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Thanks for all the info so far, I had been wondering about the subject mainly due to the state of New York's take on it. So then if I take a trip there I wouldn't be able to take my scanners and ham radios? Basically I would have to take them out of the vehicle?
 

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It's your decision. I would take my scanner, just not have it in plain sight. I would also still have my ham rig mounted as normal. If you have amateur radio tags it should be obvious to the cops what the antenna(s) are for. Also, be sure you have your wallet size license with you. If you still feel uncomfortable with that, then stow your gear in the trunk ready for use in emergencies.
 
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My wife and I do a coast-to-coast trip every other year or so in one of our convertibles. Each of the cars we use have very small trunks and limited storage space, and the idea of the trip is to take minimal luggage/stuff and stay as far from major roads as possible. We also try not to eat at any place with a name we recognize. Lots of back roads, Mom and Pop restaurants, cafes, and non-chain hotels.

But how this relates to this thread, each car we have taken is radio equipped, not so much scanner as ham radio, but with wideband receive and public service freqs programmed when the radio is compatible with local services. The Miata normally has 1 radio in it, a Yaesu FT-8900R quad band ham rig, but it is also plumbed and wired for a second radio, an Icom IC-R2500, when I feel like putting it in. The trip last year both radios were in place, and that meant 2 antennas on the little Miata. Some people have described it as looking like a Radio Controlled car, little car, big antenna.

Traveling through Kentucky in late evening, roof down and enjoying the back roads, I went past an officer in a cruiser on the side of the road. We were not speeding, not doing anything wrong, just cruising along. But as we went past the officer one of the radios broke squelch and a signal was heard. I don’t remember what was heard, was not paying that much attention. Now a convertible with the roof down means you do have to turn up the volume of a radio a bit to hear it over the wind/road noise. And you can hear the radio from quite a way away. And also the officer was window down in the cruiser and probably less than 20 feet from the speaker when the signal was being heard.

The cruiser came off the shoulder after I passed and the lights came on. We pulled over and the officer went through the license, registration, and insurance thing. He asked about the radio heads and the antennas on the car, and spent more time on them than on the registration and stuff. When I said “ham radio” he asked if I had a license. I answered yes, and showed him my signed license that is in my wallet. He commented that one of the two lights that illuminate my license plate was out, and that I should probably get that fixed, and then he sent us down the road.

Yeah, it could have been the half illuminated license plate that caused him to pull us over. Or it could have been the little Miata with California tags. But from his actions and questions I am almost sure it was the fact that a radio broke squelch and a signal was heard as we passed him. I did not know at the time that Kentucky limits scanner use in mobiles, and I still have no idea what the limitations are. I am personally convinced that being a ham saved me from any hassles associated in this instance.

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