Hamilton SE New Radio System

[Dispatch2323]

At a recent HSE board meeting they talked about bids for a new district wide trunked radio system. Has anyone seen any licenses pop up?

 

[cubn]

FCC Callsign WRXD353 (HAMILTON SOUTHEASTERN SCHOOLS)

FCC Callsign WRXD353 (HAMILTON SOUTHEASTERN SCHOOLS)

www.radioreference.com

I have not heard anything on these yet but I also only get up there every few weeks.

 

[IndyScan]

I’m curious what the advantage is over the existing use of (I’ll always call it MECA) System 3? I can’t imagine it will be less expensive to spin up a new system vs “rent” space on the existing one.

 

[INDaviation]

P25 gear is usually more expensive than DMR, which is what they're licensed for.

 

[cubn]

Caramel Clay Schools uses the county radio system (IDPS 3) which gives them immediate access to the 911 Center via the emergency button.

 

[ind224]

Common sense says schools including buses would be on a local LE system at a minimum. Typical Hamilton Co doing the weird and wacky I can still hear EDACS tails in my sleep.

 

[INDY72]

Schools use up rid and hog airtime. This is why only wtsd is on MESA S2, and only the school police are on S1. SERIOUSLY! maybe if MESA was fully TDMA on all 4 systems you could put a couple more school on, maybe. There is no way in Hell that you can support all the schools on these systems. Period! You think I am kidding? Just imagine suddenly having almost 500 non stop talking radios come on and non stop talking for 12 hours. Only 50 of those radios will be public safety. The other 450 will be bus drivers lost, administration telling janitorial to clean up Billy's puke, and the cafeterias are out of fake meat for lunch.

 

[ind224]

Yes, the hyperbole of 500 radios suddenly transmitting for hours straight takes quite the imagination. But it makes the point the inadequate system is an inadequate system. Besides, if you have 25- 30 kids on a bus at least one kid will get a call to 911 when needed and have a cool video to go with it. Can't get local interop and they expect nation wide? Lol, powers that be.

 

[INDY72]

Yes, the hyperbole of 500 radios suddenly transmitting for hours straight takes quite the imagination. But it makes the point the inadequate system is an inadequate system. Besides, if you have 25- 30 kids on a bus at least one kid will get a call to 911 when needed and have a cool video to go with it. Can't get local interop and they expect nation wide? Lol, powers that be.

Actually,... How many schools are in Marion County alone? Public schools? Not just IPS. Now, how many in Hamilton? Now add on Madison County. Every bus has a radio. Every admin staff. Plus every SRO and School PD officer. Janitorial has radios. Cafeterias have radios, even athletic has radios. 500 is actually pretty low if you put all of them together. Luckily the IPS buses have pretty much an entire NXDN trs for themselves, with only a few other users. Only a couple of HamCo schools are on MESA. To put all the full ops of all the Public Schools on MESA would actually need additional freq pairs or the systems would go to pretty much all busy bonks all day. And let's not think about an typical Thursday and Friday night during football season. School Public Safety is great to have on MESA and SAFE-T, but not full ops. Schools need their own systems. The whole encryption of everything on schools systems is as dumb as it gets though. But that's for another rant lol. But too see the truth of my words, take a look at all the school systems in the database. Look at the load outs. Now take all that and fit it on the MESA systems. Not going to fit.

 

[west-pac]

@ind224, @INDY72, This thread isn't about IDPS' P25 system capacity. This thread is about seeking information on an unknown HSE radio system.

 

[ind224]

I'm literate the caption says exactly that and my statement was school should be on a Leo system I don't care what County planet or solar system

 

[IndyScan]

P25 gear is usually more expensive than DMR, which is what they're licensed for.

I have the schools locked out & just realized HSE only has an Admin TG on System 2 (I thought they were using it like Carmel is), so spinning up a new DMR makes more sense now.

 

[cubn]

Tonight I heard:
452.000 CC1 Site 001 Cap+ system

 

[GTO_04]

Common sense says schools including buses would be on a local LE system at a minimum. Typical Hamilton Co doing the weird and wacky I can still hear EDACS tails in my sleep.

That is a good point, in the event of an emergency. But now if the schools were on the LE system, they would have an encryption key to maintain now that the LE system is fully encrypted.

GTO_04

 

[Dispatch2323]

The new system appears to be up and running. There are several frequencies listed under FCC ID WRXD353. I'm not sure of the system type. cubn noted activity as a possible Cap+ system.

 

[cubn]

I was actually gonna be up there tomorrow and will focus on MSD Washington, Westfield, Noblesville and Hamilton SE school districts.

 

[cubn]

I was actually gonna be up there tomorrow and will focus on MSD Washington, Westfield, Noblesville and Hamilton SE school districts.

Here's what I submitted to RR:

System Name: Hamilton Southeastern School District
Location: Fishers
Country: United States
State IN
County: Hamilton
System Type: DMR
System Flavor: Motorola Capacity Plus Single Site (TRBO)
System Voice: DMR

FCC:
WRXD353


SITE 001
Admin Building
39.98081 -85.99664
452.000 CC 1
461.3500 CC 1
462.175 CC 1



I put this as a Single Site system. It may be a multi site system but I have been unable to verify any other sites being on air currently.

Only 461.350 displayed Site 001. 452.00 and 462.175 showed Site 0 on my 436. -- not sure as the 436 can be weird on decoding site numbers.

Also, I heard...
461.4125 CC 1 -- Site 001 -- probably the new MSD Wash Twp Cap+ Metropolitan School District of Washington Township Trunking System, Indianapolis, Indiana
463.9750 CC 4 -- Site 004 -- additional site for Hamilton SE??

I scanned all the sites' frequencies but this was all the activity I heard as I ran errands through Westfield, Noblesville and down 37 and I-69 in Fishers.

 

[Dispatch2323]

Here's what I submitted to RR:



Only 461.350 displayed Site 001. 452.00 and 462.175 showed Site 0 on my 436. -- not sure as the 436 can be weird on decoding site numbers.

Also, I heard...
461.4125 CC 1 -- Site 001 -- probably the new MSD Wash Twp Cap+ Metropolitan School District of Washington Township Trunking System, Indianapolis, Indiana
463.9750 CC 4 -- Site 004 -- additional site for Hamilton SE??

I scanned all the sites' frequencies but this was all the activity I heard as I ran errands through Westfield, Noblesville and down 37 and I-69 in Fishers.

Thanks for the information. I'm not 100% sure but I believe the HSE School system is mainly encrypted.