Handheld Transciever for Palmetto 800?

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I’m brand new to this so please excuse my ignorance. I just took a position as a volunteer chaplain with my local sheriff’s office. Because I’m a volunteer, we have to pay for most of our gear. I’m looking for a handheld transceiver that will pick up vhf, uhf, and digital frequencies so I can also monitor the Palmetto 800 system here in South Carolina. I currently have a Baofeng uv82hp and I like that I can use CHIRP and radioreference.com to easily program. I would prefer a new HT that could do this too or something similar. Do y’all have any suggestions?
 

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So you are looking at a VHF/UHF/800 MHz radio that will operate P25 trunking…new you are looking at a several thousand dollar solution.


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And there are absolutely no 800 MHz trunking radios that can be programmed with Chirp using RRDB data.
 

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I’m brand new to this so please excuse my ignorance. I just took a position as a volunteer chaplain with my local sheriff’s office. Because I’m a volunteer, we have to pay for most of our gear. I’m looking for a handheld transceiver that will pick up vhf, uhf, and digital frequencies so I can also monitor the Palmetto 800 system here in South Carolina. I currently have a Baofeng uv82hp and I like that I can use CHIRP and radioreference.com to easily program. I would prefer a new HT that could do this too or something similar. Do y’all have any suggestions?

So, a couple of things here.

The FCC rules are quite clear, you cannot add radios to someone else's radio system without their approval. So if you want a transceiver to talk, you need to get written approval from the agency that holds the FCC license. There are no exemptions to this rule.

Unless you have a need to talk on the radio, you'd be better off with a scanner. It's going to be thousands of dollars cheaper.

The Palmetto system is trunked P25, and you will not be able to add a transceiver to that system without having it programmed/set up by a system administrator. There are various security things that will get in the way.

The radio you have may or may not have a valid type certification for transmitting on public safety radio systems. It may be illegal to use that radio to transmit anywhere but the amateur radio bands.

An agency that expects you to have a functional 2 way radio on their system needs to provide one for you, especially on something like the Palmetto system. It's not reasonable or realistic to expect volunteers to not only provide their own radios, but to get them programmed to work legally on that system.

Really, a scanner is a much better solution. As others have said, a radio that will do VHF, UHF, 700MHz, 800MHz, P25 and trunking is going to be several thousand dollars, even on the used market. Getting it programmed is a whole different challenge. Putting it on a P25 trunked system is another huge deal.
 

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Get yourself a digital scanner. You will be able to hear all of the activity on digital and analog radio systems in your area (provided they aren't encrypted).

And no offense, but I doubt a chaplin would ever need to transmit on a public safety radio system.

So a scanner would not only save you a bunch of cash, it would suit your needs much better.
 

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I was just looking for a one stop shop to replace my Baofeng. As I said, I’m brand new to all this and just started studying to get my technicians license. Would the Whistler 1040 be able to scan vhf, uhf, and Palmetto 800 P25?
 

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The WS1040 is an excellent, affordable choice!

It will scan everything in your list and there's lots of nice folks on here who can help you get it going if you run into problems.
 

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Thanks. I see that the WS1040 is not phase ii compatible. If I have the cash, would it be wiser to go with a Uniden BCD436HP?

I'm a buy once, cry once kind of guy.
 

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I was just looking for a one stop shop to replace my Baofeng. As I said, I’m brand new to all this and just started studying to get my technicians license. Would the Whistler 1040 be able to scan vhf, uhf, and Palmetto 800 P25?

Got it.
Yeah, it would be nice to have one radio that would cover all your needs for your work and hobby, but it gets really expensive.

A dedicated amateur radio will serve you better in the long run, and avoids the legality issues.

The scanner will be cheaper and a whole lot easier to program.
 

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Thanks. I see that the WS1040 is not phase ii compatible. If I have the cash, would it be wiser to go with a Uniden BCD436HP?

I'm a buy once, cry once kind of guy.

Check on the NC Forums to see if the Palmetto system might be phase 2 anytime within the next 10 years.

If so, a phase 2 scanner might be a good idea.

Here in Ohio, we have a state digital network similar to Plametto. It is phase 1 with no phase 2 in sight.

So a phase 2 scanner would be overkill for me and could be for you too.
 
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