Harris scanning Pinellas/Hillsborough County missing transmissions

[alex4659]

Admin:
Let me start off by saying that I hope this thread hasn't already been posted and if it has, please direct me there.

Now for my issue:

I have a Harris XG 75P that I have set up to scan Hillsborourgh and Pinellas counties, including various municipalities FD/EMS, SO, PD etc.

While scanning Pinellas Co, the radio will receive a partially completed transmission. Sometimes, it'll be several seconds and upwards to a minute (rarely) before I hear anything else.

Mind you, I'm scanning ALL Pinellas County municipalities in this group.

If I change the channel and change back, a lot of the times, I'll begin to here active transmissions.

Tampa (both EDACS and P25) and Clearwater PD will experience the same problems with additional issue, there will be times for several minutes where there will no ZERO activity for several minutes. Mainly between 11:30pm - 4am. If I switch from Tampa EDACS to P25, the system will be very active for several seconds then go quiet. Then I switch back to the other system, which is active for the same amount of time (for several seconds/minutes) and then again, goes quiet.

I have SDK and DSD and I everything on the RR data base is programmed in so I am rather unsure why I am experiencing these issues.

From what I was told, Harris radios scan the control channels so I would "assume" this is why I'm receiving partial transmissions but I feel like I'm missing something (or added something incorrectly) in RPM.

I've tried everything I've could to resolve this issue with no luck.

Side notes:
-CC is not displaying on the screen but the radio does emit a "boop" on occasion. What does the boop mean and is this relevant to my issue?
-The systems are are simulcast.

Any feedback/help/suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Alex

 

[pandel]

Are you still scanning the EDACS system in Hillsborough County? That system is basically silent/dead. They have transitioned to 700 P25 PII. Your radio maybe bogging down trying to scan too many frequencies/talk groups/systems? Have you tried to limit yourself to only ONE system or talk group as a test to see if the problem continues?
Additionally, where are you located, Hillsborough or Pinellas? Is this a new problem? Were you receiving these systems without difficulty before? If so, when did the problem start?

More information will help.

 

[zlandmedia]

Are you still scanning the EDACS system in Hillsborough County? That system is basically silent/dead

The system is far from dead. Several agencies still operate on it, and all of the Tampa traffic still broadcasts out over it.

Another thing to note is that the control channels hop on both the Hillsborough EDACS and P25 systems. You would want to make sure all frequencies are programmed in.

 

[pandel]

Sorry for the misinformation. I made an assumption we were only talking about public safety.

 

[alex4659]

The system is far from dead. Several agencies still operate on it, and all of the Tampa traffic still broadcasts out over it.

Another thing to note is that the control channels hop on both the Hillsborough EDACS and P25 systems. You would want to make sure all frequencies are programmed in.

I appreciate this information.

Do you mean plug in both West/East system control channels?

Thanks,
Alex

 

[alex4659]

Are you still scanning the EDACS system in Hillsborough County? That system is basically silent/dead. They have transitioned to 700 P25 PII. Your radio maybe bogging down trying to scan too many frequencies/talk groups/systems? Have you tried to limit yourself to only ONE system or talk group as a test to see if the problem continues?
Additionally, where are you located, Hillsborough or Pinellas? Is this a new problem? Were you receiving these systems without difficulty before? If so, when did the problem start?

More information will help.

Im located in Pinellas.

The problems have started around early this year/late last year from what I can remember.

 

[zlandmedia]

I appreciate this information and I'll plug both sets of control channels for both EDACS and P25II and see if that helps.

Thanks,
Alex

Don't plug in just the control channels. Plug in all channels.

 

[alex4659]

Don't plug in just the control channels. Plug in all channels.

Thats what I did.

 

[alex4659]

Don't plug in just the control channels. Plug in all channels.

Include both West/east system channels?

 

[zlandmedia]

Include both West/east system channels?

I would program those separately.

 

[alex4659]

Someone had mentioned to me that my radio might need to be tuned.

Does anyone have any feedback on that?

 

[alex4659]

Something else I forgot to mention: for Pinellas County, I only have site 5 programmed.

 

[junior71]

Something else I forgot to mention: for Pinellas County, I only have site 5 programmed.

If you’re listening to public safety all you need is site 5 in Pinellas. I have several XL-200’s and APX8000’s and they all work fine on both system from here in Pinellas. It may be user/programmer error causing the problem.

 

[alex4659]

If you’re listening to public safety all you need is site 5 in Pinellas. I have several XL-200’s and APX8000’s and they all work fine on both system from here in Pinellas. It may be user/programmer error causing the problem.

Depending on what version of RPM you have, can I send you my codeplug to see what I'm missing?

 

[junior71]

Please message me

 

[ElroyJetson]

In my experience, any error in the trunked frequency list for an EDACS system will cause missed calls. But not every time. Triple check your trunked frequency sets. And are you SURE that the system didn't have changes made to its trunked frequency set?

I'm as confident as can be that my trunked sets are correct, as they were acquired by reading actual authorized system radios, but sometimes, scanning with ANY of my Harris radios (XG-75, P7100, XL-185, P7300) will lead to some missed transmisions.

Keep in mind, these are not designed to be scanners as their primary functions. It's entirely possible that on their best day, they don't catch calls as effectively and reliably when scanning as a purpose-built scanner.

 

[junior71]

In my experience, any error in the trunked frequency list for an EDACS system will cause missed calls. But not every time. Triple check your trunked frequency sets. And are you SURE that the system didn't have changes made to its trunked frequency set?

I'm as confident as can be that my trunked sets are correct, as they were acquired by reading actual authorized system radios, but sometimes, scanning with ANY of my Harris radios (XG-75, P7100, XL-185, P7300) will lead to some missed transmisions.

Keep in mind, these are not designed to be scanners as their primary functions. It's entirely possible that on their best day, they don't catch calls as effectively and reliably when scanning as a purpose-built scanner.

I beg to differ my XL-200’s and APX’s miss nothing. I’ve set them next to affiliate radios at the station. Not a transmission missed.

 

[ElroyJetson]

Be aware I'm referring only to scanning EDACS systems. Obviously I'm not going to use an APX to scan THAT. (If I even had an APX....)

 

[junior71]

Be aware I'm referring only to scanning EDACS systems. Obviously I'm not going to use an APX to scan THAT. (If I even had an APX....)

My bad Elroy. Hell affiliating radios miss half the transmissions on EDACS. You’re right on.

 

[Echo4Thirty]

Be aware I'm referring only to scanning EDACS systems. Obviously I'm not going to use an APX to scan THAT.

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