Harris Unity / XG-100 wideband option

[BMDaug]

Does your xg-100 not have bluetooth feature? I refuse to pay 200 dollars for a cable to program one radio maybe once every 3 months when bluetooth works just as good. The only downfall is that you can't program any encryption keys to the radio

Ya, I have no trouble writing mission plans via Bluetooth, but I’ve never attempted a firmware upgrade via Bluetooth… I don’t even know if it’s possible. Also, while it is possible to load encryption keys via the usb programming cable, the Harris KeyAdmin software is pretty expensive. The cheapest legit way to load keys is an Arduino with a KFDShield and appropriate cables. This solution is also cross platform. As long as you aren’t doing actual government work, it’s a really cool solution!

-B

 

[Reconrider]

Ya, I have no trouble writing mission plans via Bluetooth, but I’ve never attempted a firmware upgrade via Bluetooth… I don’t even know if it’s possible. Also, while it is possible to load encryption keys via the usb programming cable, the Harris KeyAdmin software is pretty expensive. The cheapest legit way to load keys is an Arduino with a KFDShield and appropriate cables. This solution is also cross platform. As long as you aren’t doing actual government work, it’s a really cool solution!

-B

There are other ways too ( dm if you want). I haven't decided to upgrade my radio. It's on the latest possible FW that works with RPM14 even though I do have RPM2. I've heard some things about the xg-100P being badly laggy after updating to it and using RPM2 so I've been trying to not do it as long as possible.(radio is used for personal, ham, gmrs, other type of stuff like that - so not gov't.

 

[BMDaug]

There are other ways too ( dm if you want). I haven't decided to upgrade my radio. It's on the latest possible FW that works with RPM14 even though I do have RPM2. I've heard some things about the xg-100P being badly laggy after updating to it and using RPM2 so I've been trying to not do it as long as possible.(radio is used for personal, ham, gmrs, other type of stuff like that - so not gov't.

XG100P will never work with RPM2, but XLPR06T02 works swimmingly with the 100P and RPM14. I use them all of the time together. I think that’s still the latest, but we are about due an update. I’ll likely not update the 100P again unless there is some actual improvement, which is doubtful. I will keep updating my 100Ms though!

-B

 

[Reconrider]

XG100P will never work with RPM2, but XLPR06T02 works swimmingly with the 100P and RPM14. I use them all of the time together. I think that’s still the latest, but we are about due an update. I’ll likely not update the 100P again unless there is some actual improvement, which is doubtful. I will keep updating my 100Ms though!

-B

From what I was told, the latest firmware can work with RPM2 from a buddy of mine. I don't know if he actually used it on rpm2 but he knows more about the xg-100 than me so I don't even dare try haha.

 

[BMDaug]

From what I was told, the latest firmware can work with RPM2 from a buddy of mine. I don't know if he actually used it on rpm2 but he knows more about the xg-100 than me so I don't even dare try haha.

So… the software release notes say that for the 100P it will work with RPM14, but that for all other radios, you need RPM2. However, this is not true. I program my 100Ms and my 100P with RPM14. They all run XLPR06T02.

There is a bug in RPM14 when programming a 100M, but this has nothing to do with firmware… There is a checkbox on conventional analog channels to enable 9600 baud data, but it’s greyed out on RPM14. Works like a charm in RPM2, but I’m still confirming the proper pins for TX/RX… the RPM help section for this particular feature is also erroneous.

Anyway, R06T02 will definitely work. Im not sure it really provides anything new or improved, but it’s solid on my radio.

-B

 

[rescue161]

The XG100P will not work with RPM2, but the XG100M does. We have always programmed our XG100M with RPM and not RPM2. The mobiles do work great with RPM2, but we stuck with RPM, because it worked and we did not want to redo all of our radios

 

[BMDaug]

The XG100P will not work with RPM2, but the XG100M does. We have always programmed our XG100M with RPM and not RPM2. The mobiles do work great with RPM2, but we stuck with RPM, because it worked and we did not want to redo all of our radios

That’s what I’ve always done too, but now that I need to do 9600 baud conventional (analog) data, I have to switch to RPM2 for my mobiles! On one hand, it’s annoying, but on the other, I really should get used to using RPM2 so thanks Harris…

-B

 

[Wrenchpusher]

Does your xg-100 not have bluetooth feature? I refuse to pay 200 dollars for a cable to program one radio maybe once every 3 months when bluetooth works just as good. The only downfall is that you can't program any encryption keys to the radio

Yes sir Bluetooth is enabled I have yet to ck The toughbook. I’ll get to it and respond… I was not aware that programing via Bluetooth was possible.

 

[Wrenchpusher]

I will follow up on this question, was not aware the unit was programmed via Bluetooth

 

[wa8pyr]

So… the software release notes say that for the 100P it will work with RPM14, but that for all other radios, you need RPM2. However, this is not true. I program my 100Ms and my 100P with RPM14. They all run XLPR06T02.

On "all other radios" you do have to use RPM2 once you get past a certain firmware revision. I forget what that version was, but on our XG25s, 75s, etc we had to move up to RPM2. No big deal, it enables us to use the same codeplug for all the XG radios in addition to the XL radios; massive time-saver.

 

[BMDaug]

On "all other radios" you do have to use RPM2 once you get past a certain firmware revision. I forget what that version was, but on our XG25s, 75s, etc we had to move up to RPM2. No big deal, it enables us to use the same codeplug for all the XG radios in addition to the XL radios; massive time-saver.

Sorry, that’s not the case. The firmware I have is current AFAIK and although the software release notes claim that radios like the XG100M need to use RPM2, it’s just not true. Myself and many other people here on the forum have continued to happily use RPM14 for XG series radios.

It is true that you cannot use RPM10 after a certain firmware and you must use RPM2 for XL series radios, but the XG series as well as P/M5XX0 and P/M7XX0 series radios are happy with RPM14 using XLPR06T02, which I believe is still the latest. It was released late Q1 2022.

I believe that the software release notes state that RPM2 is required to promote the changeover to RPM2.

-B

 

[snoopyII]

I also have both (true 64 bit) XG75M's, XG100M's and a XG25P, not quite on T02 (because I'm lazy and have not updated) but at least on Lxx and I use RPM14 exclusively. I only use RPM2 for my XL200P. XG series firmware in no way forces you to upgrade to RPM2. BM is absolutely correct, in the fact that the notes lead you to believe you must change over to RPM2 but its simply not true.

 

[Reconrider]

Yes sir Bluetooth is enabled I have yet to ck The toughbook. I’ll get to it and respond… I was not aware that programing via Bluetooth was possible.

Yeah I learned that after I bought the 200$ cable that bluetooth programming was an option. So I returned the 200$ cable and only bluetooth program now. I find it more worth while than having a cable that only works for my one harris being 200$. I was planning on making one, but not sure if I feel comfortable enough with my "skills" to do it safety and not brick the brick radio lol

 

[redbeard]

FYI you can't update firmware or software keyload encryption via bluetooth. The ARC4 you can do via RPM though.

 

[TDR-94]

FYI you can't update firmware or software keyload encryption via bluetooth. The ARC4 you can do via RPM though.

Depends on the radio, when it comes to firmware.

 

[Reconrider]

FYI you can't update firmware or software keyload encryption via bluetooth. The ARC4 you can do via RPM though.

xg-100P doesn't have ARC4 capabilities for some stupid reason. I didn't know that until after I had already dropped the grand on it sadly. But it's a nice brick

 

[TDR-94]

xg-100P doesn't have ARC4 capabilities for some stupid reason. I didn't know that until after I had already dropped the grand on it sadly. But it's a nice brick

Nope, but othet radios can have ARC4 keys loaded via RPM.

 

[redbeard]

xg-100P doesn't have ARC4 capabilities for some stupid reason. I didn't know that until after I had already dropped the grand on it sadly. But it's a nice brick

Right I forgot that was one of the reasons I sold mine. Harris Key Admin and firmware updates for the 100p require the cable.

 

[TDR-94]

XG100P will never work with RPM2, but XLPR06T02 works swimmingly with the 100P and RPM14. I use them all of the time together. I think that’s still the latest, but we are about due an update. I’ll likely not update the 100P again unless there is some actual improvement, which is doubtful. I will keep updating my 100Ms though!

-B

Not likely to see anymore firmware updates, being it's now a dead product.

 

[Wrenchpusher]

Right I forgot that was one of the reasons I sold mine. Harris Key Admin and firmware updates for the 100p require the cable.

This is why I would like a cable, if you have the unit, one should have the tools to maintain it…