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I received the glossy handout for the XL-400P today. Looks like a big knobbed version of the XL-200 with a wider top and different coating (black or green). Big emergency button. VHF/UHF/7-800 with WiFi and LTE

I've heard rumors of throwing it on a grill next to a couple of steaks. As long as there's some beer to go with those steaks, I'm willing to give it a try.
 

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I received the glossy handout for the XL-400P today. Looks like a big knobbed version of the XL-200 with a wider top and different coating (black or green). Big emergency button. VHF/UHF/7-800 with WiFi and LTE

I've heard rumors of throwing it on a grill next to a couple of steaks. As long as there's some beer to go with those steaks, I'm willing to give it a try.
I'll take my steak medium and my beer ice cold.

Did Harris mention the "gloved knobs" for the 200? It's a cheap upgrade if your users like bigger knobs and it's supper cheap. We sell all ours with them.
 

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I didn't ask. I'm getting ready to buy about 50 of the XL-200P's and 25 or so of the XL-200M's, but these are for PD use, so small fingers are OK.

The XL200M is a heck of a radio; got one for my desk at work not long ago. Can be dash mounted or remote mounted, no need to buy separate radios (but the control head mounting for dash mount use is pretty peculiar).

One thing to watch out for is the magic vanishing button definitions on the display; by default they don't appear, and you have to press the channel selector knob once to get them to show up. Then if the radio is powered off or reboots (or someone accidentally presses the channel selector knob) the button definitions vanish again.

If there's a way to get them to start visible and stay that way I haven't found it yet; I can see this being a problem in vehicles so I gave TAC a few suggestions.
 

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Expect to see the XL95p soon as well. Demo radios of it are out there. Its basically a XG75p with XL software and wifi being billed as a budget radio using XG accessories.
Budget radio me-arse, you can bet the price tag is an anchor.
 

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Budget radio me-arse, you can bet the price tag is an anchor.

$1000 range. Price may be lower if that does not include contract pricing.
And $1K isn't bad for a P25 radio. A heck of a lot cheaper than others. This nonsense where they give the guy in the parks department a top end radio because "we want to standardize" is a load of crap.
 

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Ah, I knew I meant to post this somewhere.
This is the front page of the multipage glossy that the Harris rep gave me. Rest of it is specifications, which are pretty much an XL-200P that's been NFPA'd.
 

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Ouch... just heard though the grapevine that a fully-loaded XL-400 will set you back around $15k each...
 

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Wow, well, that's about $5K more than I expected. Is that the published/list price, or with NASPO/WSCA discounts?
I'm assuming that's list price... I expect we'll know more after the presentation on the 15th.
 

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I'm assuming that's list price...

I hope so. Still with NASPO pricing, it's still pretty dang expensive > ~$10K

I expect we'll know more after the presentation on the 15th.

I'll have to make sure I'm not sipping coffee when they talk about price. On the other hand, doesn't really matter to me. I don't have to deal with Fire anymore...

If Harris is going to be $15,000 list, I'm gagging thinking what the Motorola version is going to list for. $20K?
 

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I'll have to make sure I'm not sipping coffee when they talk about price. On the other hand, doesn't really matter to me. I don't have to deal with Fire anymore...

If Harris is going to be $15,000 list, I'm gagging thinking what the Motorola version is going to list for. $20K?
I'll be double-checking that I'm on mute... I'm pretty sure they wouldn't appreciate the laughter...
Heard another rumor that *ahem* another vendor is looking to develop a "sleeve" for their new radio, to meet the NFPA requirements... so yeah... $20k seems about right.
 

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I know of a small City not far from me just bought all it's officers APX NEXT radios at 15K a pop. As a taxpayer I feel my hard earned money is being COMPLETELY wasted, and the fact of the matter is I know I'm right.

Whats going to happen is LMR systems are going to become to costly to run. 10 year life span now if you're lucky and it's obsolete and 15K handsets.
 

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But think of all the hams (hey, I are one…) that will get to brag about having an NFPA rated dual band radio hanging off their hi-viz "emergency communications" vest...
And plastered across the trunk lid of their Ford escort with a exhaust that's held up with a coat hanger an inch off the ground.

Can't forget the yellow light bar!
 
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