Harrisonburg / Rockingham (conventional)

[ACU1000]

Maybe someone can help me.

While visiting Harrisonburg / Rockingham area last month I wanted to see what I was still able to listen to on conventional channels since the addition of the joint ProVoice system.

However, I am still seeing what I would consider obsolete entires in the RR database.

Can someone confirm what conventional freqs are still in use in that area?

Thanks,

(See my other related post: http://www.radioreference.com/forums/database-discussion-forum/143134-when-do-obsolete-entires-get-deleted.html#post1058238)

 

[tglendye]

Hey Mick,

You are correct, the database is obsolete for Hburg/ Rockingham. I've been waiting to get hold of the tags for the interop channels before submitting data.

Here's what I know for a fact:

460.625- County Fire & Rescue Dispatch (also City Rescue)
452.050- City Fire Dispatch
462.975- Med 10 (patched to TRS)
460.525- Interop 1 (Responses w/ outside counties)

The following have limited traffic:
453.325- Sheriff Ch. 5 T/A- still in use. Not heard very much
SIRS- Activity has decreased
460.200- Old Sheriff UHF- This is unknown interop. I heard a game warden call the other day. I know him, so I'll call him and find out what the new tag is for this channel. It was the 1st activity I've heard since the switch.

Basically the only activity you will hear consistently are the fire & rescue dispatch channels. I'll copy this and submit it to the DB.

Todd

 

[ACU1000]

Thanks Todd.

(Were youre ears burning last Wednesday? I was at Kevin Moore's and we were talking about you being active here on RR.)

MICK

 

[tglendye]

Funny you were there then. I was off that morning and was going to stop in, but I didn't have enough time. I haven't stopped in there for a while, need to make sure he's not causing trouble I can't remember if I told you, but he was one of the guys in my wedding.

I should also mention that Interop 1 (460.525) is only patched to the TRS when there is an incident involving a mutual aid company.

 

[ACU1000]

Also, see my recent post on not deleting old fregs - simply tag them correctly....

http://www.radioreference.com/forum...obsolete-entires-get-deleted.html#post1059638

 

[tglendye]

Yeah, that's the major reason I've been slow in changing things in the database. All UHF channels are still activated, I just am not aware of any tags, other than interop 1.

 

[ACU1000]

Thanks.

I am in 'burg today and listening ;-)

 

[tglendye]

If you're there, you've probably noticed the noise on 460.625. It clears up once you move east toward McGaheysville and north toward Broadway.

By the way, JMU PD is still legacy. There is an JMU Event TG patch set up... but I'm not sure if it is linked to their uhf police channel or another. I just haven't listened to the TG or their uhf primary very often.

 

[ACU1000]

Just finished programming up and old scanner for dad to listen to. I hadn't noticed the noise - but I'm already out 33 E anyway... mom and dad have a new cottage house out here in Preston Lake. Seems busy this afternoon... already heard one 'F' on cycle and a rollover on the interstate. We are listening to JMU PD too (and VSP DIV2 + TAC.)

I will taking a drive around town later in the Suburban and see what I hear with those radios from down here ;-)

Thanks again,

 

[gcgrotz]

Thanks Todd, I need to spend some time with the PC and scanners and get some things updated!

 

[stgibs]

By the way, JMU PD is still legacy. There is an JMU Event TG patch set up... but I'm not sure if it is linked to their uhf police channel or another. I just haven't listened to the TG or their uhf primary very often.

Hi Todd,

The JMU Events "Causeway" as they are calling it is actually a patch to JMU PD's ADMIN channel (whatever that happens to be).

That's what we used during JMU graduation on 5/9/09. There were a lot of audio issues when it came to HPD/RCSO/FireRescue units hearing JMUPD and vice versa. For the most part, 256 (JMUPD Disp) was totally unintelligible, esp since I was on a bike and the same went for hearing the JMU officers. However, other units be they HPD/RCSO/whomever were fine; seems to be an issue with the "causeway" (I shudder at that term, but apparently that's the official word).

On more than a few occasions, units (mostly HPD) just asked the JMU unit or 256 to call them on their cell phone.

Apparently this is the main reason behind taking the PS IOP[V/M/F] talkgroups totally out of service.

I should say, though, that I have always had issues with JMUPD's audio. The best luck I've had has been with a Motorola HT750 or HT1250 (vs. Kenwood mobiles/portables, RELM portables, etc.)

Wonderful!

 

[tglendye]

I noticed last week Broadway had a structure fire in the northeast part of the County (Runion's Gap, I think), and Orkney Springs was called for M/A. Co. 18 was advised to operate "Interop 2". A patch was set up b/n the TG and what was apparently Interop 2 (turned out it was the old Sheriff's Ch. 460.200). When Co. 18 marked up, they did not have Interop 2. The dispatcher told them to operate where they were (460.625), and they would patch them when appropriate.

So much for interopability.

 

[gcgrotz]

That's what they get for buying that junk! Let's just hope it doesn't cost somebody...

 

[mike_s104]

A few weeks ago I drove down I81 and listened to the conventional freqs and the EMS dispatch sounded like crap to me as well using a 396T. I thought they were maybe off freq for some reason so I checked later and they were correct. Maybe it will suck so bad they'll replace the ProVoice with a Motorola system and in the end the scanner users will be able to listen again.

 

[KF4ZTO]

Hopefully nobody will have to get killed in order for that to happen. A UHF P25 system (even conventional P25 voice) would have made much more sense for these guys. Just my two cents. Then interoperability would probably work a bit more often.

Anybody with any sort of public safety and/or scanner experience knows that patches to different systems of different vintages and voice modulation techniques is simply a disaster waiting to happen. Not to mention that JMU PD is a state-sponsored law enforcement agency (not a local one) and their equipment probably comes from the Commonwealth's purse. Is Virginia going to fork over the money for JMU to put Provoice radios in their cars so they can (effectively) talk on the Harrisonburg/Rockingham 800 system?

I sort of doubt it.

 

[KF4ZTO]

On a lighter note, does anybody have a more update listing of what conventional stuff H/R is still using?

and I agree, the database needs to be updated, badly.

 

[mike_s104]

On a lighter note, does anybody have a more update listing of what conventional stuff H/R is still using?

and I agree, the database needs to be updated, badly.

If you know of things that are not correct and have updates, PLEASE submit them.

 

[ACU1000]

On a lighter note, does anybody have a more update listing of what conventional stuff H/R is still using?

and I agree, the database needs to be updated, badly.

I think everything Todd mentioned at the top of this post is about it, and I think he has updated the db.

MICK

 

[tglendye]

I need to review the database and check what I know (which isn't much). No one I have talked to has knowledge of the tags for the interop channels (except for 460.525- Interop 1). That is why I was interested in the structure fire on the northern end of the county the other day... just to see what Interop popped up. Apparently the mutual aid company also had the same confusion or lack of information.

My advice at this time is top keep them all in your scanner while in this area. But, unfortunately the only ones that are used on a regular basis are 460.625, 452.050 HFD 1. You'll also hear traffic on SIRS and Med 10. If anything, however SIRS traffic has decreased since the migration to the new system.

You just can't hear much around here unless it's a neighboring county. I've even started listening to Pendelton and Hardy Co., W.Va. Well, at least there is STARS... well, almost.

Todd

 

[junkins911]

H-R Conventional Channels/Frequencies

County Fire-Rescue Paging = 460.625 (4 site simulcast)
Harrisonburg Fire Paging = 452.050 (2 site simulcast)

H-R Interoperability UHF Channels Linked via system gateway to trunked provoice talkgroups which have the same name. All channels are single site at various locations to cover various portions of the County. The purpose of these channels are to provide a UHF signal for outside mutual aid agencies assisting in Harrisonburg-Rockingham County...
UHF Interop 1 = 460.525
UHF Interop 2 = 460.200
UHF Interop 3 = 453.525
UHF Interop 4 = 460.350
UHF Interop 5 = 453.575
UHF Interop 6 = 453.150

800 MHz Nationwide Interoperability Channels. All channels are single site at various locations to cover various portions of the City and County. The purpose of these channels are to provide a 800 MHz signal for outside mutual aid agencies assisting in Harrisonburg-Rockingham County...
8CALL 90 (rebanded)
8TAC91 (rebanded)
8TAC92 (rebanded)
8TAC93 (rebanded)

If you have questions, just ask by post or contact me privately and I will be glad to share with you.