Help for Connect two devices without repeater

[ham2020]

I have 2 devices DM3600 and I want to connect the two only without REPETER so I programed them as follows:
First device (TX: 144) and (RX: 148)
Second device (TX148) and (RX: 144)
That is, the first device reverses the second

When the experience found a problem in both devices is that the device does not send and shows a warning tone and if you continue to press the message appears "NO REPETER"

What is the solution I want to link them without repeter

 

[ka3aaa]

a repeater controller board

 

[ham2020]

a repeater controller board

???What do you mean

 

[KK6ZTE]

Why are you running split frequencies?

The radio is expecting a timing signal from the repeater since you're not operating simplex (on the same frequency). It's expecting a repeater to answer.

Try programming TX and RX frequencies the same and verify it works properly.

 

[ham2020]

Why are you running split frequencies?

The radio is expecting a timing signal from the repeater since you're not operating simplex (on the same frequency). It's expecting a repeater to answer.

Try programming TX and RX frequencies the same and verify it works properly.

I have a solution to the problem of using and fixing the TALK AROUND but I wanted another solution without activating it but I have not found yet

 

[kayn1n32008]

I have a solution to the problem of using and fixing the TALK AROUND but I wanted another solution without activating it but I have not found yet

Make your transmit and receive frequencies the same

 

[ham2020]

Make your transmit and receive frequencies the same

I know that, but I want something that I mentioned

 

[kayn1n32008]

I know that, but I want something that I mentioned

Not happening. DMR radios want a timing source if your transmit and receive frequencies are not the same.

 

[ham2020]

Not happening. DMR radios want a timing source if your transmit and receive frequencies are not the same.

What about this video :

 

[WA0CBW]

The radios appear to be in the analog mode (no rx tsq).

 

[kayn1n32008]

What about this video :

Analogue, and he is using 2 different frequencies... it’s hard to tell by the horrible video. It’s 2 mobiles in a rack mount. The left radio clearly says there is no receive tone. The right radio is the transmitter. There is not enough info to know if it’s cross band or in-band.

Unless you use a radio capable of being a simplex repeater, or as you did in a previous video(I think it was you) it’s not working.

When you program your receive and transmit frequencies different(NOT a simplex channel) in DMR mode, the radio is going to send wake up packets in order to get the repeater it thinks is there, to transmit and set up your voice call on the time slot determined by the radio programming. Period. No way around it with out rewriting the firmware.If you did rewrite the firmware, to notsend the wake up packets, the radio would not know whattime slot it was transmitting on.

 

[jaspence]

!44 and 148 mhz are the edges of the 2 meter band and are not to be used for communication. You are actually transmitting outside of the band when using those frequencies. What Frequency Do I Use On 2 Meters? | Ham Radio School.com This link shows the frequency use plan for 2 meters.

 

[ham2020]

I made an idea and the experiment remained: I brought 2 DM3600 and I tied them from the back the connection method as follows:
Device 1:
The PIN # 19 is dedicated to PL / Talkgroup Detect
PIN # 20 for Ext Mic PTT
Device 2:
The PIN # 19 is dedicated to PL / Talkgroup Detect
PIN # 20 for Ext Mic PTT
Connection Method:
1- I arrived from PIN19 for the first device to PIN 20 for the second device
2- It also arrived from PIN20 of the first device to PIN 19 of the second device
3 - arrived from the PIN 14 (RX AUDIO) of the first device to PIN 11 (TX AUDIO) of the second device
4 - arrived from the PIN 11 (TX AUDIO) for the first device to PIN 14 (RX AUDIO) for the second device

And set the first device at a frequency of 150
The other machine on the 140
I want him to connect two groups that are far apart

Set the first group devices on the frequency of 140 and the other group devices to 150

If a person from the first group speaks, those around the person hear it directly because they are on the same frequency and the other group hears it through the repeater.

I tried it within the boundaries of the house and stayed to try it across long distances