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There is no repeater. This is simplex. We are looking for exclusive use of a single VHF frequency at about 5 watts max in our 3-4 county area for the parade team and two UHF frequencies at about 4 watts for use in our building.
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There is no repeater. This is simplex. We are looking for exclusive use of a single VHF frequency at about 5 watts max in our 3-4 county area for the parade team and two UHF frequencies at about 4 watts for use in our building.
No, I know that. I'm just saying, the frequency coordinator could justify a much larger range for a repeater, for example. The whole idea is behind coordination is so that there is no/limited overlap between frequencies in a given area.
Another pro tip, while you might not have digital radios now, what about in the future? The licenses are good for 10 years. Any changes to that license are going to cost you money. So include analog, DMR, P25, NXDN, etc. as emission types on your license. No cost for doing that, and if you ever do use digital in the future, you won't have to modify your license.
I was going to do that. I imagine in the future digital radios will get cheaper and I’d move at least one of each frequency group over the there as a security measure (because you can easily do basic encryption on those emission types) for those times when necessary.
So on the non profit side I can say you may get away with no licensing fees. You will need to submit copies of your 501C3 along with your IRS determination letter. You will still pay coordination fees. I have handled many SAR team licenses over the years and that's the stumbling block. For non public safety stuff I use EWA - Services | Enterprise Wireless Alliance. I don know fees now but last license was $200 for coordination fees.
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Common Itinerant and Business - The RadioReference Wiki
You have to look through all the footnotes to find the ones that are limited to itinerant only use nationwide.
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This holds true in my experience in both amateur, GMRS, and commercial radio. In commercial radio (I administer a very large P25 network) there are a few amateur radio types that think they know better than Motorola R56......they get a copy of R56 and told to take on the project themselves within those constraints. They then STFU when they realize they are wrong.
The source for that isCommon Itinerant and Business - The RadioReference Wiki
wiki.radioreference.com
You have to look through all the footnotes to find the ones that are limited to itinerant only use nationwide.
Thanks. I have found that list before but I wasn’t sure if it was all inclusive.
Idk if they would allow us. That’s used for their national convention but I guess it doesn’t hurt to ask.
That’s not bad for fees and that’s about what the provider I found looks like they are charging (plus the fees to do all the paperwork).
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It's not all inclusive and it might contain errors.
You can probably get other frequencies licensed as itinerant for a certain state or other geographical area but that would require frequency coordination.
We wouldn’t need that much coverage, just 3-4 counties. The trailer we use can’t easily travel far so we only do events that are about an hour away.
That (WQTU503) has ten 5-watt "mobiles", itinerant CONUS on 451.8000.
I ran a search on 451.8000 for a 100 mile radius from 36° 0' 0" N 119° 50' 0" W (a point in Kings County) and got no hits. I ran it for a 200 mile radius in SoCal and came up with just one (!) license, another non-profit – Seacost REACT on WQPR932. They licensed two high-power mountaintop repeaters (300W/100WERP) and 300 110-watt mobiles. The license includes stuff on other VHF and UHF channels as well. Thinking that seemed kind of sparse, I ran it for the whole state and got a bunch of mostly non-site-based (statewide, etc.) licenses.
If nothing else, it might be worth talking to the contacts on those licenses to see who they used for licensing (that may be non-profit-friendly).
That’s not a bad idea. Just hope the contacts are up to date.
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