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[MStep]

My wish-list item for the current SDS series Joe. Service types. An option for turning all applicable ON or turning all OFF. It's somewhat of a pain when you want to concentrate on one type, and all of the applicable types are turned on, as many do when they are scanning.

There is a caveat--- turning all applicable service types OFF would then result in the infamous "Nothing To Scan" predicament. So one would have to choose a single "default" service type that would remain on during an all OFF condition, and then the user could simply go into the service types menu, turn that default one off and select the one or two he wants to concentrate on. Another option would be just a message-- "Nothing To Scan-- You Must Select At Least One Applicable Service Type".

That could potentially save 30 or more button presses and some time and energy as well. I think you get the idea.

 

[JoeBearcat]

My wish-list item for the current SDS series Joe. Service types. An option for turning all applicable ON or turning all OFF. It's somewhat of a pain when you want to concentrate on one type, and all of the applicable types are turned on, as many do when they are scanning.

There is a caveat--- turning all applicable service types OFF would then result in the infamous "Nothing To Scan" predicament. So one would have to choose a single "default" service type that would remain on during an all OFF condition, and then the user could simply go into the service types menu, turn that default one off and select the one or two he wants to concentrate on. Another option would be just a message-- "Nothing To Scan-- You Must Select At Least One Applicable Service Type".

That could potentially save 30 or more button presses and some time and energy as well. I think you get the idea.

Added to the list. Maybe the 'turn all off' option could put you back in the selection menu to turn one or more on.

Or maybe it could simply be part of that menu at the top or bottom.

 

[bravo14]

Is uniden working on fire tone out option on a digital conv/trunk system? One county north of me uses conv dmr and I hear them use quick call tones.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

The settings you change that are different from what exist at power up, like avoids and favorite list selections, are stored in non backed upped RAM memory and at a proper power down from the on/off it gets saved to the SD card before the scanners CPU cuts of the power to its electronics.

It would need a permanent memory added to the scanner to be able to save the settings to, or a big capacitor or battery for the RAM memory to give it a 5 sec hold time for memory content. Both solutions needs additional hardware changes so it can only be done to future scanners.

That UPS type of thing for car use that have several minutes of power are not expensive and are easy to install between scanner and power outlet. The cheapest solution would be a $15 converter that can handle voltages down to 5volt and up to 25volt at the input and still give a constant 12v output.

/Ubbe

I think you are missing the point.

It could be done in firmware. No UPS or radio mod required.

The red lead would be hot 100% of the time, the ignition sense (formerly dimmer sense) would tell the radio to shut down just like the volume knob does now.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

This one is high on my want list.

Excellent!!!

 

[bravo14]

@JoeBearcat I think I asked this before when Paul was around. I'm seeing false site reads on bunch of sites on this State System Edacs (Provoice) Statewide Law Enforcement Radio System (EDACS) Trunking System, Statewide, Florida - Scanner Frequencies Example I'm in Bay County Site 63 on the DB is correct. When I was putting the site(s) together on unitrunker to get correct site(s) number and lcn. I noticed on all FW updates on sds series. Here is some samples I done when I was putting some sites together.

Baker County
Site 106/6a Sanderson Correct -- SDS100 shows 2ah incorrect

Bay County
Site 63/3f Panama City Correct -- SDS100 shows 3f correct
Site 203/cb Callaway Correct -- SDS100 shows 2b incorrect

Calhoun County
Site 195/c3 Calhoun Correct -- SDS100 shows 23 incorrect

Clay County
Site 171/ab Green Cove Springs Correct -- SDS100 shows 2b incorrect (same as 2b on site 203 callaway)

Duval County
Site 207/cf W Jax Correct -- SDS100 shows 2f incorrect

Gulf County
Site 123/7b Port St Joe Correct -- SDS100 shows 3b incorrect
Site 197/c5 Wewatch Correct -- SDS100 shows 25 incorrect
Site 199/c7 Ellingson Correct -- SDS100 shows 27 incorrect

Lafayette County
Site 243/f3 Brandford Correct -- SDS100 shows 33 incorrect

Wakulla County
Site 115/73 Wakulla Correct -- SDS100 shows 33 incorrect (same as 33 on site 243 Brandford)

 

[JoeBearcat]

@JoeBearcat I think I asked this before when Paul was around. I'm seeing false site reads on bunch of sites on this State System Edacs (Provoice) Statewide Law Enforcement Radio System (EDACS) Trunking System, Statewide, Florida - Scanner Frequencies Example I'm in Bay County Site 63 on the DB is correct. When I was putting the site(s) together on unitrunker to get correct site(s) number and lcn. I noticed on all FW updates on sds series. Here is some samples I done when I was putting some sites together.

Baker County
Site 106/6a Sanderson Correct -- SDS100 shows 2ah incorrect

Bay County
Site 63/3f Panama City Correct -- SDS100 shows 3f correct
Site 203/cb Callaway Correct -- SDS100 shows 2b incorrect

Calhoun County
Site 195/c3 Calhoun Correct -- SDS100 shows 23 incorrect

Clay County
Site 171/ab Green Cove Springs Correct -- SDS100 shows 2b incorrect (same as 2b on site 203 callaway)

Duval County
Site 207/cf W Jax Correct -- SDS100 shows 2f incorrect

Gulf County
Site 123/7b Port St Joe Correct -- SDS100 shows 3b incorrect
Site 197/c5 Wewatch Correct -- SDS100 shows 25 incorrect
Site 199/c7 Ellingson Correct -- SDS100 shows 27 incorrect

Lafayette County
Site 243/f3 Brandford Correct -- SDS100 shows 33 incorrect

Wakulla County
Site 115/73 Wakulla Correct -- SDS100 shows 33 incorrect (same as 33 on site 243 Brandford)

That was one of the first things on my list. (erred display data)

 

[JoeBearcat]

Is uniden working on fire tone out option on a digital conv/trunk system? One county north of me uses conv dmr and I hear them use quick call tones.

That would be a major change due to the way FTO works in the scanner. I have already submitted a proposed "FTO2" spec that should cover most FTO systems. I don't know how much of that will be authorized.

 

[Ubbe]

I think you are missing the point.

Yes, my fault. But still might be relavant due to how a vehicle works. When you turn the ignition key you get 12v from the vehicles ignition sense "tap". Scanner would power on. When you turn the key further the start motor will kick in and turn the engine and in most cases that ignition sense turns off and when the engine starts you let go of the key and the ignition sense goes back to 12v. A forum member measured when the scanner turns off and that are at 10v, which could easily happen when you start your engine. So a voltage buffer might always be needed.

That ignition sense mode in the scanner needs to have a delay for power on, perhaps 10 sec, and a user defined power off delay, between 10sec up to maybe 1 hour, if you are going grocery shopping or similar and don't want the avoids and other settings to be reset, and also infinite if you are parked and just wish to monitor for a while at a specific location with the ignition off.

I have worked with firmwares for professional 2-way radios and users sometimes forget to turn off their radios in their vehicles and if they do that on a friday and come back for work at monday the vehicle battery would be drained. The igintion on those radios are often used to turn on an external horn or lights when the ignition are off and when someone makes a private call to him, to make him aware of the call when he is outside the vehicle. The same function are then used to start a 12 hour timer, long enough for a full days work, and would then automaticly turn off the radio. It also turned the radio on when the vehicle where started but needed a delay to stop it from powering up the radio in the middle of the engine start, when the battery power fluctuated too much to give a controlled power on sequence.

/Ubbe

 

[RichardKramer]

Hi Joe; On the handheld scanner how about a separate 1/8" remote speaker jack for use with a speaker mic or external speaker to get full volume out as the headphone jack has limited output. I use a speaker mic on my BCD436 in a noisy warehouse; to get full audio out I ran small speaker wires from inside the scanners speaker terminals to a radio shack 1/8" jack mounted above the headphone jack on top of the scanner to get full volume out.
Thanks!

Rich

 

[Ubbe]

Added to the list. Maybe the 'turn all off' option could put you back in the selection menu to turn one or more on. Or maybe it could simply be part of that menu at the top or bottom.

Whenever there are a selection of many items to select, then always include All On and All Off as options, like the Scan List selections are using.

/Ubbe

 

[sonm10]

What the heck, mpt-1327

 

[mikewazowski]

I throw in a request for Tetra.

 

[Ronaldski]

Ship all the models with the latest firmware.
I.e. off hand I know the 325P2, 996P2's they ship with firmware 1.06 from September 2015, latest as you know is 1.08.01.

 

[garys]

One small thing that Uniden could do is copy the design of the SDS100 wide battery latch from jonwienke and incorporate that into new production. I never broke a battery latch, but installed one of his just because it was superior to what Uniden built.

 

[JoeBearcat]

One small thing that Uniden could do is copy the design of the SDS100 wide battery latch from jonwienke and incorporate that into new production. I never broke a battery latch, but installed one of his just because it was superior to what Uniden built.

I was informed the material used was changed 'about a year ago' (their words). Management said the same material that was used in another product latch was used which virtually eliminated latch repairs.

Other requests made since my last post on the feature request list.

As for shipping with the latest firmware, there are many cases this is not possible. Once the units are packaged, they cannot be unpackaged to update the firmware. I do not know the exact procedure used, but there would be many units in the warehouse, on the transport (usually boat), at the distributors, or at the dealers that may have older firmware. It's pretty easy to update the firmware - especially with the guides I've just made recently (hopefully will be public on the TWIKI soon). If the latest firmware is desired, that may be something the dealers can do since that is much closer to the customer receipt time.

 

[gmclam]

Presently you can indicate what type and value of "tone" is required to open the squelch. It could be CSQ, CTCSS, DCS, NAC.... I'd like to be able to set a channel so the squelch opens if ANY tone (value) is received, but not a carrier only. The options would be for each specific "tone type" or all types. For example, don't open the squelch unless a NAC (of any value) is detected OR only open if one of the types (regardless of value) is detected.

Then I'd like to exclude "tone" values. For example, only open the squelch if this signal has a CTCSS tone and it's value is NOT 146.2.

 

[RFI-EMI-GUY]

Yes, my fault. But still might be relavant due to how a vehicle works. When you turn the ignition key you get 12v from the vehicles ignition sense "tap". Scanner would power on. When you turn the key further the start motor will kick in and turn the engine and in most cases that ignition sense turns off and when the engine starts you let go of the key and the ignition sense goes back to 12v. A forum member measured when the scanner turns off and that are at 10v, which could easily happen when you start your engine. So a voltage buffer might always be needed.

That ignition sense mode in the scanner needs to have a delay for power on, perhaps 10 sec, and a user defined power off delay, between 10sec up to maybe 1 hour, if you are going grocery shopping or similar and don't want the avoids and other settings to be reset, and also infinite if you are parked and just wish to monitor for a while at a specific location with the ignition off.

I have worked with firmwares for professional 2-way radios and users sometimes forget to turn off their radios in their vehicles and if they do that on a friday and come back for work at monday the vehicle battery would be drained. The igintion on those radios are often used to turn on an external horn or lights when the ignition are off and when someone makes a private call to him, to make him aware of the call when he is outside the vehicle. The same function are then used to start a 12 hour timer, long enough for a full days work, and would then automaticly turn off the radio. It also turned the radio on when the vehicle where started but needed a delay to stop it from powering up the radio in the middle of the engine start, when the battery power fluctuated too much to give a controlled power on sequence.

/Ubbe

A delay on and delay off (adjustable) feature would be very useful.

Yes I had an old Bearcat 210 that would get its entire memory wiped if I cranked the engine (80's vintage vehicle) because there would actually be a negative transient before the battery voltage recovered. You would think a starter motor and solenoid would have a big transient snubber, but they don't. I think their is an IEEE or SAE spec on dealing with this. Scanners need to survive the automotive environment which is brutal.

 

[jake_Braker]

That would be a major change due to the way FTO works in the scanner. I have already submitted a proposed "FTO2" spec that should cover most FTO systems. I don't know how much of that will be authorized.

I'm a little confused reading that, do you mean digital and/or trunked FTO is possible via firmware update or would it require a whole new set of firmware?

 

[cg]

Can you elaborate on "issue tracking Hytera Type III DMR systems"?
It will not trunk them?

There is a thread on it including one where "UnidenSupport" said there was a case on it.

DMR/MotoTRBO mode not working

There's a DMR Tier 3 system near me and I'm trying to setup my 325 to work with it. I have 3 systems configured now. The first is conventional only and it shows me the frequency and color code and will decode audio with no issues. The second is a DMR 1-frequency system. It shows me the...

forums.radioreference.com

The system referenced it still active and still unable to be trunktracked by some of the Uniden line. I believe I had posted a data dump from one of my scanners to it for UPMAN to have looked at but can't find the thread or email. I can redo it as needed
Also, the talkgroup numbering on some Hytera systems uses a different TGID/RID numbering scheme called CPS-P3 dial scheme